FK: Yes, absolutely and categorically. I confess that I am mystified that you would ask
I had my reasons, but you left out God the Spirit Whom I included. Do you not believe the Holy Spirit to be co-equal with the Father and the Son?
I don't know of anywhere in the Bible that says that baptism CAUSES righteousness. I thought that's what you all believed
Baptism doesn't cause righteousness -- it's not magic. It's a sacrament. You are "brought" into the Church under grace.
Yes, they accepted Christ as a future Messiah
You will have to show me some scriptual evidence for that, FK. Judaism does not teach that man needs to be saved, so why would the OT righteous have believed it?
You have still not answered my question a few posts ago why would the OT righteous have been in hell if they were ritghteous.
Although I will admit that I understand Him the least, I most certainly do believe the Holy Spirit is a co-equal.
Baptism doesn't cause righteousness -- it's not magic. It's a sacrament. You are "brought" into the Church under grace.
I thought that you believed that Baptism was absolutely instrumental to salvation. When is it that righteousness is infused? After death?
FK: "Yes, they accepted Christ as a future Messiah."
You will have to show me some scriptural evidence for that, FK. Judaism does not teach that man needs to be saved, so why would the OT righteous have believed it?
Well, I found a pretty interesting article on the subject on the Jews For Jesus website. (I figure they know better than me. :) Anyway, they say that the OT Jews WERE looking for a Messiah. Here is an excerpt:
"This is not to say that all Jewish people rejected the claims of Jesus. Far from that being the case, all the first followers of Jesus were Jews. In fact, the rabbis of that time period and afterwards were well aware of the many Messianic prophecies which Christians claimed were fulfilled in Jesus. So for instance, although the Talmudic rabbis concurred that Isaiah 53 was a prediction of the Messiah, by medieval times the pressure from those who applied this prophecy to Jesus was so great that Rashi, that greatest medieval Biblical scholar, reinterpreted the chapter and said it referred to the nation of Israel. This interpretation is maintained today by many Jewish scholars, though it only dates back to the Middle Ages."
"What, then, are some of the credentials of the Messiah? Only a few can be listed below; there are many others. All of these passages were recognized by the early rabbis as referring to the Messiah:"
Messiah was to be born at Bethlehem: Micah 5:1
Messiah would be from the tribe of Judah: Genesis 49:10
Messiah would present himself by riding on an ass: Zechariah 9:9
Messiah would be tortured to death: Psalm 22
Messiah would arrive before the destruction of the Second Temple: Daniel 9:24-27
Messiah's life would match a particular description, including suffering, silence at his arrest and trial, death and burial in a rich man's tomb, and resurrection: Isaiah 52:13-53:12"
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You have still not answered my question a few posts ago why would the OT righteous have been in hell if they were righteous.
I'm sorry, I suppose I genuinely don't understand the question. I don't look at the OT righteous as having gone to hell. Their faith allowed them to be covered in the righteousness of Christ.