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To: HarleyD; Forest Keeper; Cronos; jo kus; Kolokotronis; annalex
I will not play tit-for-tat with Scripture verses. That's your game. That's why there are thousands of your denominations out there, each claiming to be the "true" one. You can believe whatever you want. But in your heart you know what is true.

As for the OT, try reading it as Jesus taught us. It's in the New Testament. Jesus was condemned not so much for creating a new religion (no one in Israel thought that), but because He was dismantling the errors of the Jews by acts (being accused of not washing hands before eating bread or rescuing a man on a Sabbath), and by words (by reinterpreted the (OT) Scripture -- such as telling us that the call for "eye for an eye" was not the way of God, that evil cannot defeat evil (only God can), and that we should resist (committing) evil). So why are you spouting OT verse to me? Read them as Jesus would read them, if you can.

As for the free will, I will repeat: dead men cannot sin; those who cannot sin cannot be condemned. If our will is dead, is it any of our doing? We are morally accountable beings. One cannot be a morally accountable being without free will. The NT says we will be judged for our deeds. You probably deny that too.

In proclaiming depravity of mankind, you triumph in it by denying the very basic principles of what would make us accountable to God.

457 posted on 01/05/2006 7:56:17 PM PST by kosta50 (Eastern Orthodoxy is pure Christianity)
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To: kosta50; Forest Keeper; Cronos; jo kus; Kolokotronis; annalex; P-Marlowe
As for the OT, try reading it as Jesus taught us. It's in the New Testament....So why are you spouting OT verse to me? Read them as Jesus would read them, if you can.

Hmmmm...let me post my scriptures side by side...

There is no difference.
516 posted on 01/06/2006 5:00:37 AM PST by HarleyD ("Command what you will and give what you command." - Augustine's Prayer)
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