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To: HarleyD; kosta50; jo kus; annalex

"People like Hus, Wycliff and Luther had had enough. Had they felt the only avenue was the Orthodox Church they would have went there. But the Orthodox Church wasn't what they wanted.

What was it about Orthodoxy, save its 1500 year old theology, which the Reformers didn't want?

They wanted a return to the roots of the western Church.

Until at the earliest the 800s, probably even later, the dogmatic theology of the Eastern and Western particular churches was identical. Its no answer to say that Blessed Augustine taught this or that. Neither Augustine nor any of the other Fathers spoke infallibly or dogmaticly. By 1500, if one accepts the Protestant claims that erroneus practices and beliefs as a matter of dogma, or what might as well have been dogma, had crept into the Latin Church, the same claim cannot be made about Orthodoxy whose dogma and praxis have been fixed since the 7th Ecumenical Council. The only reason that Protestants could have had to reject Orthodoxy would have been to reject the established dogma and praxis of The Church, East and West, as of 787, which represents the root beliefs of the Western Church.


407 posted on 01/05/2006 8:33:40 AM PST by Kolokotronis (Christ is Risen, and you, o death, are annihilated!)
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To: Kolokotronis; kosta50; jo kus; annalex
Until at the earliest the 800s, probably even later, the dogmatic theology of the Eastern and Western particular churches was identical. Its no answer to say that Blessed Augustine taught this or that. Neither Augustine nor any of the other Fathers spoke infallibly or dogmaticly.

I don't agree. The Orthodox do not accept Augustine's views, they promoted John Cassian's views who the west condemn as a heretic, and they do not accept the Council of Orange creeds which are based upon Augustinian theology. The churches were not identical.

416 posted on 01/05/2006 8:58:30 AM PST by HarleyD ("Command what you will and give what you command." - Augustine's Prayer)
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