What about these?:
Rom. 6:23 : For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord.
John 14:23-24 : 23 Jesus replied, "If anyone loves me, he will obey my teaching. My Father will love him, and we will come to him and make our home with him. 24 He who does not love me will not obey my teaching. These words you hear are not my own; they belong to the Father who sent me.
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EVEN IF this knowledge is made available by being taught Christian beliefs on this matter, it still requires faith that after one dies, one would go to hell - if they disobeyed a God that they cannot see. Faith is required to believe in this God AND to adhere to that promise of eternal hell (which we have no empirical evidence for).
I am not sure I am following you. Are you saying that one has to believe in hell to be subject to going there?
Again, WHO are the sheep? The ones who hear His voice. We don't know who will continue to hear His voice into the future. Thus, we can only know whether we are CURRENTLY of the flock.
So according to you, Jesus DOES lose some of His sheep. They ARE snatched out of His hands. Some of the sheep He has today, He allows to be lost forever. This just isn't scriptural. If this is how bad a shepherd He is, I guess He should have stuck to carpentry. After all, what kind of shepherd allows his sheep to be lost forever? Certainly NOT a good one.
"But if the wicked will turn from all his sins that he has committed and keep all my statutes and live according to judgment and righteousness, he shall surely live, he shall not die" Ez 18:21
I think Paul is talking about unrepented sin. That leads to permanent spirtual death.
I am not sure I am following you. Are you saying that one has to believe in hell to be subject to going there?
No, a person doesn't have to know of its existence, per sec, to be subject to the possibility of going there. However, a person of today does not necessarily believe it exists. It is a matter of faith. We trust that the Word we have received is from God and vouches for its existence - one that cannot be empirically proven until we witness its existence after our physical death
So according to you, Jesus DOES lose some of His sheep
Reciting the Sinner's prayer does not make someone Christ's sheep. A person can follow Christ's voice for a time - and then choose to ignore it later. That person did not persevere. If a person dies in this state, they have rejected God, no matter how much they followed God ten years ago.
"But if the righteous should leave his righteousness and commit iniquity, [and] do according to all the abominations that the wicked [man] does, shall he live? All his righteousness that he has done shall not be mentioned; by his rebellion in which he has trespassed and by his sin which he has committed, because of them he shall die." Ez 18:24
Seems pretty clear. But I imagine that you will tell me that I am somehow twisting Scripture's meaning.
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