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To: Cronos

The ancient heresies are the heresies committed by the Pharisees while in the Seat of Moses. These same heresies have been repeated by Rome while claiming to be in the Seat of Peter. The Catholic Church has its own body of tradition that functions exactly like the Jewish Talmud. Jesus clearly condemned the traditions that the Pharisees had added to the Law of God. The RC Church has repeated this mistake.


361 posted on 01/04/2006 9:45:47 PM PST by gscc
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To: gscc; Cronos
This is a juvenile view on Christianity. Show me where Jesus "clearly" condemns tradition. He condemned hypocrisy: a mechanical execution of the law. He taught that the law must be internalized in man's heart and become liberated life of charity and faith. By living such life himself He asked us to follow Him and promised the Kingdom of Heaven to those that do. The Jewish law was fulfilled in His sacrifice and the new covenant of faith and love replaced it. He did not condemn any heresies (although He warned of them), because He did not come to fix an old religion but to fulfill its purpose and replace it.

The heresies Cronos refers to are various christological and ecclesiological heresies of the late Roman and early medieval times: arianism, monophisitism, donatism, nestorianism and so forth. These were honest attempts at independent interpretation of the scripture and at replacing the apostolic tradition by Christians, and to them the word heresy applies fully. Those ignorant of the patristic period are likely to repeat them, either literally, most notably as mariophobic neo-nestorianism and clubby calvinist neodonatism, or more frequently in method, like Luther's fantastic interpretations of the New Testament and shenanigans with the Christian Canon.

The false analogy between dead Jewish law of the Pharisees and the dogmata of the Church is another ancient heresy, that of antinomianism. It is the childish view that anything that resembles authority and order was "clearly condemned by Christ". It is unfortunate that the doctrine of salvation by faith alone, combined with the theological anarchy that is the outcome of the conceit of independent interpretation of the scripture, false in themselves, compounded their harm by giving that heresy, gnostic in origin, a second birth.

364 posted on 01/04/2006 10:56:39 PM PST by annalex
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The ancient heresies are the heresies committed by the Pharisees while in the Seat of Moses

You disappoint me. Christ told us to DO WHAT THEY SAY! Thus, according to you, Christ commanded us to follow heretical teachings...

These same heresies have been repeated by Rome while claiming to be in the Seat of Peter.

Which heresies does Rome repeat that the Pharisees taught (which Christ told us to follow)? How can the Spirit of Truth be the Father of Lies simultaneously?

The Catholic Church has its own body of tradition that functions exactly like the Jewish Talmud

And like the Talmud, Catholic ecclesiastical tradition is not defined as infallible dogma. Traditions may be only local, or for a particular time. All traditions are not Apostolic.

Jesus clearly condemned the traditions that the Pharisees had added to the Law of God

No He didn't. He condemned traditions that circumvented or abrogated or ignored the Law of God. Anything that brings man closer to God is not condemned by Christ. Christ HIMSELF followed Jewish traditions.

The RC Church has repeated this mistake.

Which "mistakes" did the entire Roman Catholic Church make in the teaching of faith or morals?

Regards

388 posted on 01/05/2006 5:50:01 AM PST by jo kus
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