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To: kosta50; jo kus
FK: "God gives the elect love."

That is contrary to what the New Testament teaches us.

Kosta, you're such a tease. :) OK, I'll bite. Why is it contrary?

3,449 posted on 03/11/2006 12:14:10 AM PST by Forest Keeper
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To: Forest Keeper
Kosta, you're such a tease. :) OK, I'll bite. Why is it contrary?

You said that God gives the elect love. God offers His blessings to all, FK; for He "maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust" [Mat 5:45]

Our Lord Jesus Christ taught us to love our enemies (cf Mat 5:44), "and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you" as he prayed for forgiveness for these who crucified Him, "fore they don't know what they do."

Do you think God would teach us to love our enemies, while He loved only those who love Him? Doesn't He say "For if ye love them which love you, what reward have ye?" (Mat 5:46)

In other words, true love loves those who hate you. What does that mean, FK? That we take them out to dinner? That we make friends with them? NO! It means we fervently and honestly pray for them, "they don't know what they do," and ask for the conversion of their hearts, so that they may be saved and live. God gives everyone a chance to convert, FK, everyone is salvageable. If they fail, it is not for the lack of God's love for them.

3,453 posted on 03/11/2006 5:11:08 AM PST by kosta50 (Eastern Orthodoxy is pure Christianity)
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