[kosta50]

I believe God's word

First, what you call a word of God is one of the versions that has become a word of God after tradition of men. Second, you select isolated verses you want to believe. Third, you make up your own interpretations.

But, let me ask you: if God were to reveal that there is no salvation for us, because mankind has not repeneted and He now decided to cause another great flood, except without Noah, would you still glorify Him? Would you still love Him?

[HarleyD]

First, what you call a word of God is one of the versions that has become a word of God after tradition of men.

I simply read what is written. I don't make something out of nothing.

Second, you select isolated verses you want to believe.

"Isolated" verses that you cannot explain. If I could I would post the entire scriptures and commentaries. However that would be a bit lengthy. So instead I post many of the verses that for years never made any sense to me. (I'd like to post the book of John and Romans but space is prohibited.) While I try to reconcile the verses I'm presented with (not alway to everyone's satisfaction), all I get in answer to my verses are "Yes, but..." or "It's a mystery..." or "I don't believe it". I personally don't think that is a very good way to understand God's word.

Third, you make up your own interpretations.

No, I simply tend to believe one church father over another; no different than you. You believe Cassian. I believe Augustine.

But, let me ask you: if God were to reveal that there is no salvation for us...and He now decided to cause another great flood, except without Noah, would you still glorify Him?

God said He is going to destroy the world with fire. I believe it. I still glorify Him.

It states in the scriptures that, in the end, EVERY KNEE will bow and everyone will be under subjection-including those in hell.

Would you still love Him?

The ONLY reason I can love God is because God has given me this gift.

1Jo 4:19 We love, because He first loved us.

[Forest Keeper]

[Kosta to Harley:] "Second, you select isolated verses you want to believe."

Harley does not believe in isolated verses, he believes in all of them!

[Kosta to Harley:] "But, let me ask you: if God were to reveal that there is no salvation for us, because mankind has not repeneted and He now decided to cause another great flood, except without Noah, would you still glorify Him?

If that happened, then 'NO', we would not:

Gen. 9:8-11 : 8 Then God said to Noah and to his sons with him: 9 "I now establish my covenant with you and with your descendants after you 10 and with every living creature that was with you—the birds, the livestock and all the wild animals, all those that came out of the ark with you—every living creature on earth. 11 I establish my covenant with you: Never again will all life be cut off by the waters of a flood; never again will there be a flood to destroy the earth."

We can't have God being a liar now, can we? :)