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To: HarleyD
It simply is that God's Son didn't die for everyone.

The next day John saw Jesus coming unto him and said, Behold the Lamb of God, who takes away the sin of the world John 1:29

he {Jesus} is the reconciliation for our sins, and not for ours only, but also for [the sins of] the whole world 1 John 2:2

Christ died for the sin of all mankind, just as Adam's one sin effected all mankind (romans 5). We both agree that not everyone will utilize this incredible gift.

1 Cor 3:13

Not sure what you are getting at, brother.

God said, "Believe in the Lord Jesus and you shall be saved

The word "Believe" implies an ongoing activity, not just a one-time declaration. Thus, if we continue WALKING IN FAITH, yes, we will be saved for eternal life.

God said He'll keep me safe. "My sheep hear My voice, and I know them, and they follow Me;

Yes, in retrospect, the elect will have followed the Master's voice UNTIL THE END.

I believe God's word.

The "problem" is that we disagree what it says, don't we? Christ had plenty of foresight when He appointed an authoritative body to bind and loosen, didn't He?

Regards

3,442 posted on 03/10/2006 5:44:59 PM PST by jo kus (I have set before you life and death, blessing and cursing; therefore CHOOSE life - Deut 30:19)
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To: jo kus
Not ALL the people came out to Him. Matthew sat at his tax booth. Is the Bible in error or perhaps it is a figure of expression?

As for 1 John 2:2 you left off 1 John 2:1:

Our Lord Jesus is NOT an Advocate with the Father for non-believers. The interpretation of "whole world" can only mean the "whole world" of Christians given the entire context of 1 John 2.

Not all....

The word "Believe" implies an ongoing activity, not just a one-time declaration.

Of course belief is an ongoing activity. Where do you think your faith came from to believe in the first place? Who do you think gives you the faith to continue? It all comes from God.

The "problem" is that we disagree what it says, don't we? Christ had plenty of foresight when He appointed an authoritative body to bind and loosen, didn't He?

Even with an authoritative body they still can't get it right. The Pharisees found that out. ;O)
3,446 posted on 03/10/2006 6:21:03 PM PST by HarleyD ("A man's steps are from the Lord, How then can man understand his way?" Prov 20:24 (HNV))
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