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To: HarleyD; jo kus; Kolokotronis; Forest Keeper; annalex; Cronos
I will read your Confessions, thank you very much. I really will! I want to see where does human will come into play and if not what's the point. I don't care for biblical references. I want to know why I have intellect. Do I have a will or not. Is there anything that God doesn't do for me or had not done for me already in the past, now and future?

If I have no will, I am not guilty, sinful or in need of redemption, salvation or reason to exist. In fact, following your theology, this is not me speaking but God, I suppose!

2,633 posted on 02/14/2006 9:05:54 AM PST by kosta50 (Eastern Orthodoxy is pure Christianity)
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To: kosta50; jo kus; Kolokotronis; Forest Keeper; annalex; Cronos
I want to see where does human will come into play and if not what's the point. I don't care for biblical references. I want to know why I have intellect.

Now, now. Remember this is based on the traditions of the fathers. ;O)

2,635 posted on 02/14/2006 9:10:44 AM PST by HarleyD ("Man's steps are ordained by the LORD, How then can man understand his way?" Prov 20:24)
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To: kosta50
I want to see where does human will come into play and if not what's the point. I don't care for biblical references. I want to know why I have intellect. Do I have a will or not.

This thread has motivated me to start reading again in the history of the Protestant Reformation. The first Protestant translation of the Bible to include the innovation of verse numbers occurred in Geneva, Switzerland--Calvin's city--by the printer Robert Etienne in 1551. While this made it much easier to find a single text, it was less easy to follow a continuous story or, for example, a sustained Pauline argument.

Whatever the convenience of verse numbers may have provided, it also made the Scriptures seem something like a chemical compound that can be analyzed into its constituent elements or atoms. It also makes it easy to recombine those elements to form "new molecules." I think this helps to explain why some Protestants have a tendency to reduce any argument to Book, Chapter, and Verse.

This is not a technique that most Protestants use. Most also want to know why they have an intellect and will.

2,641 posted on 02/14/2006 11:24:51 AM PST by stripes1776
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