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To: Forest Keeper; jo kus
You would also try to convince a seeker of your doctrine, just as we would, right?

Not really. I would, of course, answer questions and defend the Church against calumny, like I do here, but the Church does not expect the converts to come because they made up their mind that they like the teaching; they come because it is where Christ is, like it or not.

I am a convert myself, from Orthodoxy. I observed many prospective converts in the Christian Initiation of Adults class. Typically, those who have endless doctrinal questions fall off. They are "seekers" who will get shorter, simpler answers in an evangelical setting and that is where they will end up. This is America, people are not disposed to listen to carefully nuanced, laced with medieval history and latinisms doctrine, and they are not attracted to the idea of spiritual authority. Those who complete the class and convert can't wait to get in, they are hungry on a visceral level. The instructors tend to try and slow them down, so that they don't rush into the church headlong on sheer enthusiasm, and they try to get some doctrine into them even though they are too impatient to ask. Questions come later; the first year or two, anyway, the converts just live it.

Let me ping Jo Kus who, I heard, teaches RCIA.

2,407 posted on 02/08/2006 5:23:26 PM PST by annalex
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To: annalex; Forest Keeper
FK wrote : You would also try to convince a seeker of your doctrine, just as we would, right

Not really. I would, of course, answer questions and defend the Church against calumny, like I do here, but the Church does not expect the converts to come because they made up their mind that they like the teaching; they come because it is where Christ is, like it or not.

I would agree with Annalex. In my experience, most who come to the initial classes have already decided that they want to be Catholic. They don't understand much about it, but they desire to become Catholic. Lots of reasons. Some, because the spouse. Some, because they know a Catholic who has impressed them. I would say those are the biggest reasons. Most Catholics don't know the faith very well, so I don't expect the seekers to know much. This year, we had one young lady who was there because of her Grandma, but she dropped out - I don't think she even believed in God, because of the questions.

Those who complete the class and convert can't wait to get in, they are hungry on a visceral level. The instructors tend to try and slow them down, so that they don't rush into the church headlong on sheer enthusiasm, and they try to get some doctrine into them even though they are too impatient to ask. Questions come later; the first year or two, anyway, the converts just live it.

Each RCIA is different. Each class has a "heart and soul" that differs each year. Last year, I had mostly young people. They were not quite as interested in doctrine. This year, there is no one under 35. They are much more interested in the reasons of "why do Catholics believe that"? Questions come eventually. You are right regarding the desire to "get in". Most cannot wait to receive the Eucharist, knowing the fullness of what is at stake.

Regards

2,446 posted on 02/09/2006 4:18:54 AM PST by jo kus
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