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To: Kolokotronis; jo kus; kosta50
[From Athonite Archimandrite Sophrony:] "... We must not wait for God to force Himself on us without our consent. God respects and does not constrain man. It is amazing how God humbles Himself before us. He loves us with a tender love, not haughtily, not with condescension."

I would certainly agree that Jesus defines ultimate humility. Praise and glory be to God. Where I think we disagree is over whether He showed humility out of respect for us OR out of love for us. I would say these are completely different reasons. If you made a list of people you respect, what would they all have in common? They would all MERIT your respect, wouldn't they? Many of them would even have something or some quality that you do not have. I don't see how man can merit God's respect. Love, of course, requires no merit.

2,320 posted on 02/06/2006 12:24:29 PM PST by Forest Keeper
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To: Forest Keeper; Kolokotronis; jo kus

FK, you can respect but not love, but you can't love and not respect. Since God loves us, so He respects us.


2,324 posted on 02/06/2006 2:01:45 PM PST by kosta50 (Eastern Orthodoxy is pure Christianity)
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To: Forest Keeper; kosta50; jo kus

I'm with Kosta on this one, FK!


2,328 posted on 02/06/2006 3:36:37 PM PST by Kolokotronis (Christ is Risen, and you, o death, are annihilated!)
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