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To: Kolokotronis
During the process of theosis, our personal free will can lead us to grace or sin.

I think I am stuck on your calling free will a divine attribute. Jesus never sinned, yet we all do, through our free will. As you said, we even sin after Baptism, during the process of theosis. Therefore, I don't understand how free will is a divine attribute because sinning is obviously not divine. By this reasoning, you might say that Jesus could have chosen to sin, but didn't. I would say that while Jesus did have free will, He never had the potential to sin within Him, so He "couldn't" have.

Remember what the English word "sin" is a translation of, the Greek word "amartia" which means "to miss the mark", the mark being Christ, which is a rather different concept from that in the West.

OK, then would you equate sin with "evil", as I would? Or, is "missing the mark" more like mistake, or something else? How do you see the concept of evil?

2,316 posted on 02/06/2006 11:40:39 AM PST by Forest Keeper
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To: Forest Keeper; kosta50

"OK, then would you equate sin with "evil", as I would? Or, is "missing the mark" more like mistake, or something else? How do you see the concept of evil?"

One of the problems with Western praxis is this idea of a sort of incohate "evil". The last words of the Our Father are a good example "...but deliver us from evil". In fact the Greek says "...but deliver us from the Evil One". The Evil One and his demons may lead us to so live our lives as to fail to become "like Christ", to miss the mark. If we commit murder, have we sinned? Yes and we have done an evil thing. If we lead our lives in such a way as to fail to "die to the self" but rather lead a life of self-fulfillment, not by committing any of the seven dealy sins, but perhaps by a life of study of ancient pottery and hurt no one, have we committed evil? No, but have we missed the mark and thus sinned? Yes.

I think Kosta answered the first question. I would only add that for Christ to "sin" he would have to un Christ-like, an odd thought.


2,332 posted on 02/06/2006 4:43:59 PM PST by Kolokotronis (Christ is Risen, and you, o death, are annihilated!)
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