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To: kosta50
We did not lose the ability to choose. That is the freedom that is inherent in the intellect and dominion given to man in the image of God, which we retain.

You can choose between 2 things, but everything an unsaved man does is sin to God, so all the unsaved do is chose which sin they will be guilty of, all he can do is sin ( I am not talking about our standing before men)

Rom 3:10 As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one:

Rom 3:11 There is none that understandeth, there is none that seeketh after God.

Rom 3:12 They are all gone out of the way, they are together become unprofitable; there is none that doeth good, no, not one.

Gen 6:5 And GOD saw that the wickedness of man [was] great in the earth, and [that] every imagination of the thoughts of his heart [was] only evil continually.

Isa 64:6 But we are all as an unclean [thing], and all our righteousnesses [are] as filthy rags; and we all do fade as a leaf; and our iniquities, like the wind, have taken us away.

Rom 14:23 And he that doubteth is damned if he eat, because [he eateth] not of faith: for whatsoever [is] not of faith is sin.

Tts 1:15 Unto the pure all things [are] pure: but unto them that are defiled and unbelieving [is] nothing pure; but even their mind and conscience is defiled.

1,987 posted on 01/25/2006 1:17:19 PM PST by RnMomof7 ("Sola Scriptura,Sola Christus,Sola Gratia,Sola Fide,Soli Deo Gloria)
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To: RnMomof7; Cronos; Kolokotronis; Forest Keeper; annalex; jo kus
Rom 3:10 As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one...

Mom, we believe that also. We believe that man dug himself into hole out of pride and arrogance and got stuck there fore good. He can't really go anywhere, or do anything, but sit eternally in his darkness. Without God's help, without His rope or Divine Hand, man cannot pull himself out. It doesn't mean that man has lost his ability to judge, or to know that a helping Hand can pull him out.

Where we differ is in who does the what. You believe that it's up to God whether He pulls you out or not. We believe that God offers His hand to everyone sitting in the hell hole and it is up to us to accept or reject that Hand. Why do some accept and others reject is not the question to pose. The question to pose is why did Adam choose evil? Pride and arorgance or because God gave him no choice but to choose evil?

Why? God obviously intended man to be in Paradise. Man was the crown-jewel of God's Creation: a being not only born in the goodness of God, in His likeness, but also in God's image -- a being with dominion over the world he was created on.

God had man exactly where He wnated him -- and where He wants him, and where he shall be. That will not change. But one can't help but wonder why then did God repent for having created man (Gen 6:6), such a high maintenance creatire, that God had to suffer out of His love for us underserving sinners, in order to give us a chance to be saved!?

Is it possible that God decided to corrupt His own perfect Creation just so that He might have something to do in the foreseeable future, by micormanaging his people and paying for our redemption with His own Blood?

Your belief would be okay if it did not at the same time imply that God created Adam with the intention of throwing him into that hole along with Eve. The Reformed theology confuses God's omnioptence with being all controlling of what we do. What we do does not interfere or threaten His plan. What we do applies only to our space-time framework which does not limit God in any way. It only limits us.

We believe that, by his own pride and arrogance, Adam sealed his fate and the fate of his progeny by disobeying God and then blaming Him for his disobedience.

He became separated from the Light and faced darkness of his soul, for the absence of light is darkness. In darkness he is lost. In darkness he cannot find a way. In darkness he cannot know the truth. God is the Light, the Way and the Truth by which we can return to Him. As long as we think that we can be like gods, we shall remain in darkness.

1,996 posted on 01/25/2006 5:13:52 PM PST by kosta50 (Eastern Orthodoxy is pure Christianity)
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