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To: jo kus; kosta50
Paul cannot possibly mean that Chirst is the SOLE intercessor because he doesn't say that in 1 Tim - denying that in 1 Tim 2:1. Second, Jesus cannot be the SOLE intercessor because Paul mentions the Spirit, also, as an intercessor (Rom 8:26). Finally, the Greek words are totally different. Thus, it is a mistake, even from Scripture alone, to say that the Catholic practice of intercessionary prayers to the saints is incorrect or against the Bible. The icing on the cake is the very fact that they DID - as seen by archeological evidence found in the Catacombs of Rome and the writings of early Christians dating before 200 AD.

OK, from what you said I can agree that an intercessor is different from the one mediator. Clearly, we pray for each other all the time, and this is good to God. So in that sense I can agree. Thanks for the explanation.

And, wouldn't you say there is quite a difference between asking a live friend to pray for you and asking a person who's been dead for hundreds of years to pray for you? You have said that the practice was done, but I don't see that as making it right. Indulgences were done too. Does the Bible support it, or is it fully a tradition? As I said in a post to Kosta (written after you wrote this post), why is praying to the dead for intercession necessary?

1,839 posted on 01/21/2006 7:00:17 PM PST by Forest Keeper
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To: Forest Keeper
a person who's been dead

This is not a scriptural philosophy of death. Christ erased the barrier between life and afterlife and promised all who believe in Him, are baptised, and follow Him everlasting life. The clinical death of a saint has nothing to do with his ability to hear us and communicate with Christ.

1,848 posted on 01/22/2006 11:42:17 AM PST by annalex
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To: Forest Keeper
And, wouldn't you say there is quite a difference between asking a live friend to pray for you and asking a person who's been dead for hundreds of years to pray for you?

Death does not separate us from the Love of Christ! We are alive in Christ, even more so, after our physical death. While our bodily senses see a difference between the two, our faith tells us that intercessionary prayers from heavenly saints are even more efficient than those from righteous saints on earth.

Regards

1,853 posted on 01/22/2006 1:57:25 PM PST by jo kus
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