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To: jo kus
It is clear that Scripture ALONE suggests both your point of view

No, it is not so. Isolated verses in the Scripture might suggest absence of free will. The Scripture as a whole is clear on Man's faculty of free will. Harely goes not by Scripture alone but by 10% of the Scripture alone. Likewise, if you open your car manual where it described the engine, and find no reference to the steering wheel, you would be foolish to suggest that the car manual denies the presence of a steering wheel. Vice versa, if you only looked at the passages that describe the steering system, you would be wrong to conclude that cars have no engines.

You are asking Herley to read the entire Book. That is asking him to reject protestantism. There will be no sale.

1,828 posted on 01/21/2006 1:35:28 PM PST by annalex
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To: annalex; HarleyD
Isolated verses in the Scripture might suggest absence of free will. The Scripture as a whole is clear on Man's faculty of free will.

I agree. There are individual snippets of Scripture that imply that God moves man. There are also individual snippets of Scripture that tell us man must choose between good and evil. By cutting and pasting verses, we will get nowhere. Thus, we have an infallible Church to tell us WHAT God's Word is on the subject. Because on SCRIPTURE ALONE, you really can't tell. There is enough evidence to support Harley's case, or Pelagius' view (by ignoring other Scriptures). That is why it is so critical to harmonize ALL of Scripture and interpret it through the Apostolic teachers that WROTE the Scripture...

Regards

1,833 posted on 01/21/2006 2:16:50 PM PST by jo kus
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