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To: kosta50; Forest Keeper; HarleyD; P-Marlowe; blue-duncan; ItsOurTimeNow; Dahlseide; zeeba neighba; ..
Where does it say in Scriptures that only the "elect" are saved?

Wow. That's a new one on me.

I guess some lucky devil could slip in the service entrance while God is busy welcoming the redeemed at the front gates.

He's been warned to beef up security, but you know how He is when He's got too much on His mind. All good intentions and no follow-through.

Rather than using the word "elect," perhaps the inspired writers of Scripture should have tagged them merely as "nominees."

"Even so then at this present time also there is a remnant according to the election of grace.

And if by grace, then is it no more of works: otherwise grace is no more grace. But if it be of works, then it is no more grace: otherwise work is no more work.

What then? Israel hath not obtained that which he seeketh for; but the election hath obtained it, and the rest were blinded.

(According as it is written, God hath given them the spirit of slumber, eyes that they should not see, and ears that they should not hear;) unto this day." -- Romans 11:5-8


1,546 posted on 01/15/2006 12:31:22 AM PST by Dr. Eckleburg (an ambassador in bonds)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
Wow. That's a new one on me

Really? Here is what the Scripture tell us:

"Therefore I endure everything for the sake of the elect, that they also ( kai ) may obtain the salvation that is in Christ Jesus, with eternal glory" [2 Tim 2:10]

Imagine that: "...that they (the elect) may too (KJV) obtain salvation..." This must be the "other" Paul, the one Protestants don't seem to quote, for obvious reasons.

You Protestants take elect/chosen to mean something superior. No, it's a commandment. God chooses people to do good work in His name, to baptize, to spread the kowledge of the God of Abraham so that all nations would know Him.

"And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached throughout* ( olh ) the world for a witness unto each* ( pasin ) nations; and then shall the end come**" [Mat 24:14]

* both words translated as one word, all, in KJV
** In otherwords, if you (elect) do what God commanded of you, His Plan will be finished. I guess, you have some work to do! :-)

"Go ye therefore, and teach all ( panta ) [Gentile]* nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost[Mat 28:19]

* according to Pualine usage

The chosen are the people who bring the Good News so that all nations may be saved, not just the chosen ones.

1,575 posted on 01/15/2006 2:15:54 PM PST by kosta50 (Eastern Orthodoxy is pure Christianity)
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