[annalex]

The Scripture does not say. I speculate, He does. But it does not mean we cannot alter the list tomorrow.

[Dr. Eckleburg]

But it does not mean we cannot alter the list tomorrow.

If men can alter the list of salvation, then men make the final decision regarding salvation.

Nowhere in Scripture is that offered. On the contrary, it is expressly denied.

"For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:

Not of works, lest any man should boast.

For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them." -- Ephesians 2:8-10

Not to mention the fact that if the list is altered, God has already factored that alteration into the scheme of things from before the foundation of the world. Nothing precedes or supercedes God's determining will.

That's the definition of God. He gets all the good stuff.

[Forest Keeper]

Dr. E: "Does God know the names of all the elect for all time at this very minute?"

Annalex: "The Scripture does not say. I speculate, He does. But it does not mean we cannot alter the list tomorrow."

For my two cents, I say He does absolutely and glory be to God for it!

Job 36:4 : "Be assured that my words are not false; one perfect in knowledge is with you."

Given the success rate that other folks have had at trying to alter God's wishes, I'd say it would be a pretty tall order for the first one to succeed at it now. :)