Sigh.
No, no one refuses his own birth. A mother can refuse the birth of a child she has conceived by aborting him. If she does she is refusing also the gift of life for that child. But the child has no say in accepting or refusing his conception or his birth--but only because he is inacapable of accepting or refusing anything.
But gift of life does not equal birth and that's where you went wrong and why your gotcha ain't. Birth is a fact, a happening. Gift is a meaning. The same happening can have more than one meaning. A happening can be a gift if it is given with gift-intent or a non-gift if imposed against someone's will. Birth can be a gift to the mother giving birth but a mere happening to the child being born.
A spanking can be a great gift to a child if it helps him learn right from wrong. It can be a great non-gift and injustice if imposed in anger or in some other way unjustly and unlovingly. And before you say that a child has no choice but to accept a spanking as a gift, stop and think for a moment.
If the spanking was done justly and out of genuine love it would be a gift offered. The child may not know it to be a gift at the time and if he refuses to see it as a gift, it is no gift to him, despite it being offered as a gift of tough love. Now, parents who have a truly selflessly loving relationship with their child can deliver punishment in such a way that the child at some very deep level may actually realize that it is given with love and in the child's inchoate way, begin to accept it as a gift--which is one of the crucial ways that children begin to learn right from wrong and learn to love right and to become moral actors. But this is not easy for parents to do and they often fail to some degree, even if not totally. However, for all children, the day ought to come, after parents have at least most of the time acted in genuine tough love and justly rather than in injustice and tyranny, that the child, maturing, sees past spankings truly as gifts and accepts the gifts. Time-delay again, as you may have noticed. Meanwhile the gift-meaning hangs suspended until acceptance completes it.
If the parent did not offer the spanking justly and with love then it is not even offered as a gift and cannot ever be a gift and cannot ever be accepted as a gift by the child as he matures.
Birth is an act. To the mother who accepts the child, it is part of the process of the gift of life for her in the form of her child. To the child it is not and cannot be a gift until he is old enough to know it and accept it.
If you are going to play gotcha, you have to refute my claims without switching the terms. If you switch the terms (unless you employ strict synonyms, in which case you are not really switching), you are no longer refuting what I wrote but refuting a phantom claim.
That's what you just did. Again, you didn't stop to think about the difference between birth and gift of life.
They used to teach this in Philosophy 101--these sorts of basic principles about how words mean things and how meanings change and how the same act can mean different things depending on intent and circumstances and reception.
You really ought to consider quitting the gotcha game and taking a sabbatical to learn some fundamental principles of thinking things through.
This will be my last effort to converse with you on this topic. You don't really seem interested in thinking these things through but only want to play gotcha. I have better things to do. If you want to persist in the belief that you've vanquished me with your next gotcha, be my guest. Anyone who has followed this exchange can readily see that so far you are clueless as to the real issues involved.
lol, pardon me