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To: zeeba neighba
You are foolishly laughing. I did not say anything about free choice or acceptance being needed for being physically alive.

You said by implication that the gift of life was given to me against my will, without my acceptance (by sarcastically stating that I refused it).

In my response, had you read it thinkingly rather than mechanically, you would have noticed that I distinguished between the mere reality of being alive and the reality of a gift of life. Until I was able to affirm or reject my own life I was most certainly alive and I was alive without my own free choice to accept. (I was not alive against my free choice--so any theory that God does things to us against our free choice is out the window--because I was incapable of making any choice for or against.) I was alive because of the choice and acceptance of my parents.

And until I accepted the gift of life it was not yet a gift to me. It was a gift to my parents because they did accept it before I was born. It became a gift to me when I was able to recognize it as such and accept it. Had I recognized it and refused it, it would be a gift-manque, a gift refused.

That existed, lived, was alive for a number of years before I knew about the gift of life does prove your claim that I had the gift of life without opportunity to refuse or accept it. There was simply a time delay before my acceptance or refusal became possible and during that time the Giver's intent to gift me was very much present but the giftedness was pending, as far as I was concerned, until I was able to accept or reject. The giftedness of my life was not pending but completed as far as my parents were concerned. They could, of course, have later rejected the gift of my life, having initially accepted it, by killing me. At that point my life would not be a gift to them for they would have rejected the gift.

Got any more gotchas? Perhaps you ought to sleep on the next one before firing it off. You're record so far is pretty lousy.

1,364 posted on 01/13/2006 1:07:13 PM PST by Dionysiusdecordealcis
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To: Dionysiusdecordealcis
by sarcastically stating that I refused it).

.? You should be a Democratic historian. I said no such thing

1,366 posted on 01/13/2006 1:16:15 PM PST by zeeba neighba
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