[Dionysiusdecordealcis]

You have an extremely literalist mind. Obviously Warfield and Hodge substituted Calvinist orthodoxy which they would have called "true Biblical Christianity" for Catholic orthodoxy. At issue was whether to a heretic one has to know one is dissenting and be stubborn about it. Hodge and Warfield agreed on those points. The Webster definition would have been laughed at by Hodge and Warfield. No court of law of any sort will punish someone for what he does unknowingly. And the Church is judicious enough to insist that a person has to be given a chance to change is mind before he is found guilty of heresy. Not all courts do that with all crimes, but knowledge of right and wrong is fundamental to all culpability in any justice system.

By the way, the definition you post is the one from Webster and thus not the one I said Hodge and Warfield held. The one I said they held was the one Bohemund posted some time back which included the pertinacious aspect (which presumes the knowing aspect).

[blue-duncan]

"By the way, the definition you post is the one from Webster and thus not the one I said Hodge and Warfield held. The one I said they held was the one By the way, the definition you post is the one from Webster and thus not the one I said Hodge and Warfield held. The one I said they held was the one Bohemund posted some time back which included the pertinacious aspect (which presumes the knowing aspect)."

I think you will find that the definition I posted in #1336 is the same one Bohemund posted at #1238.


"At issue was whether to a heretic one has to know one is dissenting and be stubborn about it"

What is your point? You believe we are heretics for dissenting from what you believe to be the true Biblical Christianity and we believe that you are heretics from dissenting from what we believe to be true Biblical Christianity. You think your Church had it right all along and we think it erred. You think Luther and those that went before and after had it wrong and we think they had it right. There is no statute of limitations on scriptural error so we will commit it to the Holy Spirit for illumination, that's His job.