[HarleyD]

Gotta admit that Dion's logic is true.

And that logic is????

1) Faith is a gift from God.

2) Not all men have faith.

3) Therefore God does not give faith to everyone.

Dion states my riddle is wrong but has failed to show where. Perhaps you can answer my riddle.

[Dionysiusdecordealcis]

Harley, do I really have to go back and restate what I wrote? You misreprent me again. I simply pointed that there are two possibilities as to why some people have no faith.

a. God did not offer them the gift of faith. b. God did offer them the gift of faith but they refused it.

Your three points assumes that only (a)is true. The conclusion of your syllogism requires that only (a) be true. But if both (a) and (b) are true possibliities, then your syllogism is fallacious.

That's my logic. And you say I failed to show where you are wrong. Since you didn't get it the first time around, I'll be more specific as to the fallacy in your reasoning.

For your conclusion to work, your first premise has to be reformulated to read "Faith is a non-refusable gift from God." Only then can the second premise combined with the first yield the conclusion. But I also showed that no gift can be non-refusable--the very nature of gift is to be refusable. So your first premise presumes a meaning for gift that is manifestly false.

I know that I did not show you where your syllogism was wrong, but that's because you are rather slow on the uptake. A lot of others, including Chronos, did understand me to have shown where you are wrong.