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To: Dionysiusdecordealcis; zeeba neighba; Bohemund

You guys need to get your stories straight -- again.

Bohemund just defined all who do not accept Roman Catholic dogma as "heretics."


1,256 posted on 01/12/2006 5:30:34 PM PST by Dr. Eckleburg (an ambassador in bonds)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg

lol.


1,258 posted on 01/12/2006 5:35:19 PM PST by zeeba neighba
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To: Dr. Eckleburg

Please see 1259 and its link to the Catechism for a fuller treatment of the varieties of sins against faith.


1,260 posted on 01/12/2006 5:39:27 PM PST by Bohemund
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Bohemund just defined all who do not accept Roman Catholic dogma as "heretics."

And that's totally irrelevant to the topic. You are truly unable to keep one thought straight. You said in 1252 that I said that no one on this list called anyone a heretic.

That is patently false, absolutely false. What I said was in response to Zeeba's selfpitying lament that we call people who merely study the Bible diligently heretics. I said that we label as heretics those who draw heretical conclusions from their study of the Bible.

And now you try to use Boehemund's summary in 1244 of the definition he posted in 1238 to play gotcha with me.

Those who do not accept Catholic dogma do so because they draw other conclusions from Scripture interpretation, not merely because they study diligently. So Bohemund's statement does not prove me wrong as you proclaim in your loudest gotcha gal voice.

Moreover, you misrepresent Bohemund. In 1244 Bohemund said that anyone who does not accept Catholic dogma is a heretic. But if you had troubled yourself to read the definition he posted in 1238 you would see that his second post left out a key element of what makes someone a heretic: To be a heretic one has to persist in dissent from Catholic dogma after first knowing it to be true and then rejecting it, after being instructed and warned. You're so eager to "gotcha" that you missed that part of the definition.

I went to considerable length in my posting to Zeeba to point out that I do not consider people like you heretics. You are too uninformed, too incapable of reading coherently, to flighty to keep your mind on a train of thought longer than three seconds to be a heretic. I said Luther and Calvin were heretics because they knew better.

You don't know any better. But not because you haven't had opportunity to know better. Unless you are just putting on a big show of being incoherent, it would appear that you simply are incapable of following a line of reasoning. Hence you are incapable of being a heretic. Only you know for sure.

And please retract your multiple false statements about what I wrote about the use of the term heretic by Catholics and Orthodox on this thread. You get a pass on being a heretic because of your ignorance but falsifying what I wrote is very uncivil, you who like to lecture people on FR etiquette.

1,266 posted on 01/12/2006 6:07:45 PM PST by Dionysiusdecordealcis
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