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To: Dr. Eckleburg
Nothing is "necessary for our salvation" but the grace of God, decreed by Him from before the foundation of the world and dependent on no man nor will other than His own.

That is correct, when all is said and done. Our faith, our good deeds of love, our repentence. Catholic doctrine that refutes Pelagius has stated this as so nearly 1500 years ago. And yet, God does not save us without us. There are numerous Scriptures that point to our judgment based on our actions (our response to God - not our own actions. All actions of merit are enabled by God). Thus, God moves us to do His will, but not irresistibly. Proof? Look to the many "saved" people who fall away. Look to the many "saved" people who do NOT love. They are all around us.

Rejoice, Jo kus, your good works are the result of God's choosing to save you from before the foundation of the world. Be confident in He who guides you. Read the Bible more and find Him there, speaking directly to your heart.

I do realize that God is the cause of my good works. But I also realize that I and God are partners. God is my helper. He doesn't move me against my will. I DO sin. The fact that a saved person sins should be proof enough that we still have free will.

Regards

1,193 posted on 01/12/2006 2:53:31 PM PST by jo kus
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To: jo kus
The fact that a saved person sins should be proof enough that we still have free will.

None is perfect save Christ. But the Holy Spirit is working sanctification in all God's elect. I thought every Christian believed that.

Generally, are you not a better Christian today than you were yesterday? Last year? Ten years ago?

If the answer is "yes," it is because Scripture is true and the Holy Spirit is guiding your footsteps.

Look to the many "saved" people who fall away.

No person whom God knows will sit beside Him in heaven is going to not sit beside Him in heaven. If a person is truly saved, they are saved. Christ said He will lose none whom the Father has given Him. Christ's promise should give us 100% assurance all God's elect will be brought to redemption.

Otherwise, life is just a game of chance with salvation up for grabs and God's eternal decrees are but long-winded suggestions.

Look to the many "saved" people who do NOT love. They are all around us.

None is perfect save Christ. We have days, weeks, years to become the men and women God intends us to be. It's a long process with twists and turns and stumbles. But it is a road that only leads forward with the path lit by the Holy Spirit, the road markers written by God, and our hands held firmly by Christ Himself.

"But we are bound to give thanks alway to God for you, brethren beloved of the Lord, because God hath from the beginning chosen you to salvation through sanctification of the Spirit and belief of the truth:

Whereunto he called you by our gospel, to the obtaining of the glory of our Lord Jesus Christ." -- 2 Thessalonians 2:13-14


1,207 posted on 01/12/2006 3:33:47 PM PST by Dr. Eckleburg (an ambassador in bonds)
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