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To: HarleyD
His decrees ARE our actions!

What we do is willed by the Father in heaven - He desires that we have free will. Of course, this doesn't mean that all of our actions are pleasing to Him, but the existence of evil means that He places our free will as more important than every action of ours being unfree yet pleasing in His eyes. Being a gracious and loving ruler, He decrees that we have free will. His plan of salvation takes EVERYTHIG we do into account, since He sees everything we do, past, present and future, as one eteranl present. He is not surprised, then, by what we do - it all happens to Him right now.

If God is love, then He condescends to us, is humble, and allows us to freely choose Him or reject Him. Certainly, God knows who will choose Him, but it doesn't follow that HE overrides our free will to ensure it. The Scripture calls God a helper. I say that God helps us to make the right choices, but this help does not become irresistible.

Regards

1,148 posted on 01/12/2006 9:15:34 AM PST by jo kus
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To: jo kus; HarleyD
Certainly, God knows who will choose Him, but it doesn't follow that HE overrides our free will to ensure it.

As just one example (and others can help me), but did not Moses resist leading the Jews? Didn't God say, in effect, "Don't worry, I've got you covered"? God did override the will of Moses to get what He wanted. It was part of His plan, therefore it happened. I believe it is the same with salvation.

1,384 posted on 01/13/2006 3:25:54 PM PST by Forest Keeper
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