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To: jo kus
This doesn't change instantly upon our Baptism/Sinner's Prayer.

No, it changes instantly God instills faith in us. We don't do it ourselves. That's my point. Something that people here seem to wish to deny or believe it is our effort.

The only way we come to God is when He has given us faith. And if we have faith we will go to God.

1,078 posted on 01/11/2006 5:45:09 PM PST by HarleyD ("No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him..." John 6:44)
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To: HarleyD
it changes instantly God instills faith in us. We don't do it ourselves. That's my point. Something that people here seem to wish to deny or believe it is our effort

I agree with that, but that was not my point. As a result of God instilling within us faith, we are not instantly converted to righteous Christians. We still sin. I ask you again to look at Romans 7. Paul, of all people, says HE has difficulties following the Spirit. Again, all the faith in the world is worthless without love. God instilling within us some modicum of faith won't get us to heaven. We must WALK in faith through deeds of love. If we are judged based on what we do, then faith alone doesn't save us, but faith working in love.

Regards

1,133 posted on 01/12/2006 8:14:53 AM PST by jo kus
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