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To: jo kus
If it is so obvious, why do so many people of good will disagree with your position?

Men's "good will" has little to do with God's sovereign election.

No doubt Goering's Luftwaffe possessed good will. A lot of good it did them, eh? All men are fallen, and none seek God unless and until God rebirths their dead hearts.

Sola gratia. We are saved through the "washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost."

1,075 posted on 01/11/2006 5:25:24 PM PST by Dr. Eckleburg (an ambassador in bonds)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg; jo kus

Dr. Eckleburg: Say it again I love to hear the story.

jo kus: Somehow the following verses confuse the minds of those who add anything to the completed work of the One Sacrifice & the One Mediator.

Ephesians 2:8-10 (King James Version)

8For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:

9Not of works, lest any man should boast.

10For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them.

Note that the gift is similar to talents received at physical birth in that the recipient is unable to do a thing; the gift can not be refused. The miracle of re-birth is a singular event in the new life of the believer; an event on a par with resurrection from physical death. Grace is the sole motivation for causing one to be reborn; faith is a result of re-birth. Good works follow, like a caboose. We are regenerated for good works which God prepared beforehand.


1,098 posted on 01/11/2006 6:28:08 PM PST by Dahlseide (TULIP)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
If it is so obvious, why do so many people of good will disagree with your position?

Men's "good will" has little to do with God's sovereign election.

You haven't answered my question. How do you know your point of view is correct?

Regards

1,131 posted on 01/12/2006 8:08:49 AM PST by jo kus
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