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To: HarleyD
some don't wish to carry out the reasoning

And some don't wish to carry out the reading. What you excerpted from Bishop Minatios is not what he teaches on Esau and Jacob. To know what he teaches you will have to read about half way into the article. Look for a phrase that contains "This is how we must understand the blessing of Jacob". I do recommend that you read to the end, but if you make the effort that far, you would be able to comment on that the bishop has to say about Esau and Jacob.

1,025 posted on 01/11/2006 12:10:05 PM PST by annalex
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To: annalex
You mean this part...

Thus, the all-wise, all-just, omniscient God loved Jacob, for He foresaw the God-pleasing disposition of his heart. He hated Esau (saith the Lord: yet I loved Jacob, and I hated Esau [Malachi 1:2,3] Trans.) for He foreknew his evil disposition. He is merciful to whomever He wishes, for He foreknows that the person will be good and of an obedient will.

You mean it depend on how nice a person is going to be whether God will love him. As Augustine states there isn't ANYTHING that you have that you have not been given-including your obedient will. This hole gets deeper and deeper.

BTW-Jacob was not a very nice person until after God came to him and revealed himself.

1,033 posted on 01/11/2006 12:56:05 PM PST by HarleyD ("No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him..." John 6:44)
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