Posted on 01/01/2006 4:48:03 PM PST by HarleyD
I did not imply that he did, but his political interests must have influenced the translators, given the systematic anticlerical spin in KJV.
the perfect translation is the King James
I showed you where it is not perfect. Accidentally, I agree that it is nevertheless a good translation, and is far superior to any modern translation. But perfect it ain't.
Mary being a type of the church, where does that come from?
Mary carried Christ in her womb and the Church carries Christ in the Eucharist abnd in her custody of the Bible.
Scripture please?
The Immaculate Conception is not directly described in the scripture.
Mary was saved like everyone else, by believing God
By believing God and following His command, yes.
When Luther wrote the phrase' faith without works' he had also Gal.2:16 and Rom.4:5, 16 in mind as well.
I don't care what he had in his mind; he intentionally mistranslated the Word of God.
Mary was blessed for bearing the Lord, but 'rather' (instead) blessed are those who hear the word of God and keep it.
There is no "but rather" in the original. The meaning of "menounge makarioi" is "yes, and also". Once again, you are bringing up Pretestant spin, and I reed what is written.
I don't disagree. The point is, whatever exceptions you can point to, Mary's betrothal was also commonplace, or the Protoevangelium would not be describing it so matter-of-factly.
And Isaiah???
I just explained that. You read Greek? I do.
Must we rush things....
Excellent post.
LOL. Do you suppose the cole slaw has a soul because I really like eating that cole slaw...
It says vegetative. This kind of caricature tells me a lot about you.
Why not just say, the priests were called in to annoint the sick, -- they still do, -- and call a spade a spade?
They were coming together in someone else's home to worship and fellowship.
They were coming for the Eucharist. Read the letter, please. There is no "worship and fellowship"; Paul spells out the meaning of the Eucharist in this passage.
you do nothing to explain what Peter means when he speaks of the priesthood of the believers
He does not. He speaks of royal priesthood. "Ofg the believers is your spin, for which you show no scriptural justification.
What it discusses is the priestly class that existed in the Old Testament
No, he is not. He is explaining what Christian priests are.
Do you enjoy being fearful to little animals FC? Does it please you when birds fly away in fear of you? Do you eat everything you kill? Are bugs your meat too? Is this what Christ teaches?
lol. Almost dinner time, and now I find out my cupboard is filled with souls!?!
There is also Roman 5. These describe that only through the sacrifice of Christ that remittance of sin is possible, and it is also true in the case of Mary. The difference is that her potential sin was wiped off before she could commit any. This is not in contradiction to any passage that describes sin in general terms.
There are so many wrong places I could go with this...
Speaking of animals, don't feed the trolls.
At my last duty station in Germany, the mess hall would server soul food every Thursday night.
They had the absolute best collards I've ever tasted.....small diced bits of fried ham and slightly crunchy chopped collards.
I went every Thursday and at nothing but the greens. Never found any anyplace else that came even slightly close.
It's a comfort to know the "Veggietales" made it to heaven.
Come to Richmond. I know a place.
Funny, both the Jews before and in David's day knew that God was God of the living, not of the dead. Matthew 22:32 teaches, as usual from the Old Testament, Exodus 3:6, 15, and David wrote Psalm 16:10, and Psalm 6:5.
Act 23:6-8 But perceiving that one group were Sadducees and the other Pharisees, Paul began crying out in the Council, "Brethren, I am a Pharisee, a son of Pharisees; I am on trial for the hope and resurrection of the dead!" As he said this, there occurred a dissension between the Pharisees and Sadducees, and the assembly was divided. For the Sadducees say that there is no resurrection, nor an angel, nor a spirit, but the Pharisees acknowledge them all.
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