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To: brant
 Without the obedience of Mary, we would not have had Jesus.


Poster previously elsewhere...

 Campion writes: "You have no idea what God "would have done [if Mary had said NO]"



God never changes, and the Bible tells us what he would have done in similar circumstances. Here is the Biblical grounds for my statement;

"Then Mordecai told them to reply to Esther, "Do not think to yourself that in the king's palace you will escape any more than all the other Jews. For if you keep silent at this time, relief and deliverance will rise for the Jews from another place, but you and your father's house will perish. And who knows whether you have not come to the kingdom for such a time as this?" Esther 4

Specifically, "For if you keep silent at this time, relief and deliverance will rise for the Jews from another place".

If Esther, or any other Biblical character, were to refuse (for whatever reason) their appointed role then God would raise up deliverance from a different place.

In Daniel we read:

"And all the inhabitants of the earth are reputed as nothing: and he doeth according to his will in the army of heaven, and among the inhabitants of the earth: and none can stay his hand, or say unto him, What doest thou?" - Daniel 4:35

There is no o­ne among all the inhabitants of the earth who can "stay His hand". No human can prevent God from fulfilling His plan.

To affirm that Mary's "no" would halt the plan of salvation is a denial of the sovereignty of God. To deny her the ability to say no is a denial of the reality of man's will.

187 posted on 12/10/2005 5:43:59 PM PST by PetroniusMaximus
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To: PetroniusMaximus

"To affirm that Mary's 'no' would halt the plan of salvation is a denial of the sovereignty of God."

Jesus is God's salvation. Without Mary's "yes," we would not have Jesus. Do you have trouble understanding that?


191 posted on 12/10/2005 7:17:18 PM PST by brant
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