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To: count-your-change

We can argue whether 2 Baruch presents a valid historical account of the defeat of Judah and its aftermath, but this is not our topic on hand. I am not arguing that 2 Baruch should be added to the Christian canon, although I do not find 2 Baruch so strikingly out of touch on its biographical and historical points. Obviously, I suggest nothing of the kind for the Talmud. I am simply pointing out that each writer whose work we have examined, perhaps pursuing goals that are suspect, reflects the realities of his time and therefore is a reliable witness — not to the fantastical parents of Jesus invented by the Talmud, not to the fate of the Tabernacle, not to the composition of those seeking refuge in Egypt, — but to the fact that in the Second Temple period a group of Jewish virgins played a certain role connected to the worship in the temple. Pseudo-Baruch (let’s call him that) may have had his own “gaps” he wanted to “fill”, but “filling the gap” about Virgin Mary’s childhood was clearly not among his goals. I lost count how many times I have to make this simple point, and you seem to be an intelligent man. Don’t embarrass yourself.


147 posted on 02/02/2013 12:04:15 PM PST by annalex (fear them not)
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To: annalex
“I lost count how many times I have to make this simple point, and you seem to be an intelligent man. Don’t embarrass yourself.”

Why should you keep count?

Back in your post #41 you introduced Marshall and his blog as support for your comments about the Evangelium. Well...
his extra biblical sources have been shown to be either fraudulent or inaccurate or contrary to Scripture or all three in addition to being conflated into saying something they don't.

You say these writers, “....reflects the realities of his time and therefore is a reliable witness”.

That's precisely the point! They are unreliable for all the reasons above and more, therefore cannot be assumed to reflect reality at all.

You say a group of virgins played “a certain role” connected to the worship in the temple. That's certainly vague enough to cover virtually everyone and lends nothing to Mary being a temple virgin or there being some such group being “kept in” the temple as you have asserted based upon Marshall's errant opinions.

If I had to go such sources I would be embarrassed truly, it would be like going to a politician for moral clarity.
And then verifying what he says by asking another politician.

But as it is pointing out how these pseudo (read false) account, Evangelium included, run contrary to Scripture is hardly reason for embarrassment.

148 posted on 02/02/2013 2:42:14 PM PST by count-your-change (you don't have to be brilliant, not being stupid is enough)
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