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To: D-fendr
Was Hubbard’s intent the elimination of disease?

The stated goals are:

"A civilization without insanity, without criminals and without war, where the able can prosper and honest beings can have rights, and where man is free to rise to greater heights, are the aims of Scientology."

Was his development of Scientology’s technology based on valid science?

As valid a scientific basis as Freudian analysis. (IWO, no not really. Calling anything "valid science" with regards to psychology and spirituality is at best a strain.)

Is the Personality Test valid science?

It was swiped from a "scientifically valid" test: "Originally called "American Personality Analysis", but probably changed to "Oxford Capacity Analysis" (OCA) because "Oxford" carries more weight. The original test was created by psychologist Julia Lewis and was later adopted and edited by CoS."

Is the E-meter?

It's a valid as a lie detector. It came directly from galvanic skin response meters popularly used by psychologists in the era when scientology adopted it.

Is auditing?

Is psychiatric 'talk therapy'?

285 posted on 01/16/2008 8:19:39 PM PST by null and void (Conservatives are tired of being sucked up to every 4 years and stabbed in the back for the next 3.)
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To: null and void

Do you believe Hubbard’s goal statement on Scientology?

Did you say you believe Scientology (from Dianetics “The Modern Science of Modern Health”) shares the same scientific validity you attribute to Freudian psychoanalysis - in other words: none?

Was that a yes or no on the validity of CoS’s Personality Test?

As you know, the E-meter is not used as a lie detector, it’s validity there is irrelevant. It deals with, according to Hubbard, but to deal with “engrams” and the “reactive mind.” In your opinion are these entities real and is the E-meter a valid tool for dealing with them?

Are you saying auditing is the same as talk therapy or that both have scientific validity or that neither does?


286 posted on 01/16/2008 8:45:20 PM PST by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: null and void

how long were you in Scientology?

Could you explain what you saw in regards to taking medications while in there?..

from what I have come to undestand, was that there was no official rules about not taking medication.. but they would treat you differently if you were..

also.. that certain medication were explicitly forbidden.. namely psychiatric medication?

Have also heard stories that the people at the Sea Org were not even allowed to take aspirin..


287 posted on 01/10/2009 3:21:15 PM PST by outlawjake
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