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To: raygun

You've really hit on the crux of one of my questions: does it make a bad Christian if I don't believe in the story of Creation as told in Genesis? Or is it more important to place your emphasis on life today since that's where we are.


26 posted on 11/15/2005 6:00:34 AM PST by homeschool_dad
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To: homeschool_dad
There is a profound axiom of logic known as The Law of Non-contradiction. "A" can not be "non-A". That which is false can not be true and vice versa. The question that everybody needs to answer is: does absolute truth exist? If it does not, can that be unequivocally stated absolutely? If absolute truth does exist, where may it be found today?

Christianity doesn't stand or fall on the Bible. Christianity stands or fall on whether or not Jesus is who He said He is. Jesus said He is the Great "I Am." Jesus quoted exclusively the Scriptures as being the Word of God. Scipture states:

All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: - II Tim 3:16
The Divine authorship of Scripture can be ascertained based upon many different proofs: historical, archeaological, internal and external bibliographical evidences that make all other texts of antiquity pale as a candle against the sun. And then there's prophecy, something that is exclusive to the Bible. Prophecy is completely absent from the Koran, the Hindu Vedas, the Baghavad Gita, the Ramayana, the sayings of Buddha or Confucius, the Book of Mormon, ande yet a full 1/3 is devoted exclusively to prophecy and 80% of that has been fullfilled. And we're not talking about average run of the mill fortune cookie, Casandra-style prophecy (or gibberish by the likes of Nostrodamus, St. Malichy), but serious sink your teeth prophecy such as those foretelling the coming of the Messiah with extremely specific aspects of His coming, e.g. the place of his birth, the loss of self rule of the country he's born in, being wrapped in burial clothes at his birth, his suffering, crucifixion and subsequent resurrection, etc. that total 333 prophecies concerning Christ.

It has been calculated that the odds of any 3 of the 333 prophecies being fullfilled in any one person amounts to 10^48. As an analogy of this, figure the great state of Texas was covered in 1/2 dollars 3' thick, and one somewhere in the state had a mark on it. The odds of finding that one 1/2 dollar by chance alone is equivalent to 3 out of 333 prophecies fullfilled in one man. Another analogy is required to describe 10 prophecies fullfilled: cover the whole state of Texas with electrons (one being marked). The odds of finding that one electron by chance alone amounts to 10 out 333 prophecies fullfilled in one man. If you sorted through all those electrons at a rate of 250/sec, there wouldn't be enough time to find that one electron even given the amount of time atheists speculate elapsed since the universe began. This is remarkable in its own right in that there were no prophecies foretelling the coming of Buddha, Mohammad, Zoroaster, Confucius, Joseph Smith, Mary Baker Edy, popular Hindu gurus, or any other religious leader. The odds of all 333 prophecies fullfilled in one man is greater than the number of molecules in the universe. And then there's truely remarkable prophecies about the Jews, Israel and Jerusalem. There's no ordinary natural explanation for those prophecies being fullfilled whatsoever by pure chance.

Christianity has the Divine mark of approval bar none. And the divine inspiration of Scripture is beyond dispute. Those that want to believe require no proof, those that don't want to believe can't be provided sufficient evidence to compell them otherwise; the evidence is overwhelming.

With respect to your question: what part of scripture was inspired by God? And what value does that little bit confer? What conclusion can be drawn with respect to Gen 1-11 based on II Tim 3:16. And if you deny the veracity and integrity of Gen 1-11, what are you saying about God? And if what you say about God is essentially that He's a liar, are you really a Christian? Despite that, and that notwithstanding, if that's true, and yet consider yourself to be a Christian, my only question would be why would you actually be a Christian?

31 posted on 11/15/2005 11:34:00 AM PST by raygun
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