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Christian-News-In-Maine.com | 09-22-2005 | Stephen Katz Jews for Jesus

Posted on 09/22/2005 7:25:57 AM PDT by newsgatherer


From Jews For JESUS: CONTROVERSY IN WASHINGTON
Stevphen Katz Jews For Jesus

I just got off a call with Jon Moeller, chapel leader for the Washington Nationals baseball team. He volunteers with a ministry called Baseball Chapel. Jon called me because he and Baseball Chapel are facing a challenge from the Jewish community, which has caught them offguard. THEY NEED OUR HELP.

Here is the link to a 4-page article from Sunday's Washington Post. (If you must register to read it, it's free so go ahead and do it. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/09/17/AR2005091701522.html?sub=AR

The article descibes how Baseball Chapel works, but there a few statements that have gotten the Jewish community angry. "If you know the Lord, you will go to heaven," Moeller's friend, a visiting chapel leader named Bud Smitley, told the men on a recent Sunday. "If you don't know the Lord, it could be the other way around. There's only two places: heaven and hell" While doing a Bible study on John 14:6 and 8:31 a player expressed concern because his former girlfriend is Jewish. He turned to Moeller, "I said, like, Jewish people, they don't believe in Jesus. Does that mean they're doomed?" Jon nodded, like, that's what it meant. "My ex-girlfriend! I was like, man, if they only knew. Other religions don't know any better. It's up to us to spread the word." Jon has told me that's not an accurate representation of the conversation.

Rabbi Shmuel Herzfeld of Ohev Sholom Talmud Torah, which he's named "The National Synagogue" has holding a press conference even as I type this email. He's gotten the Anti Defamation League involved and many Jewish Nationals fans are writing to express their displeasure.

As it stands, Jon may lose his credential from Baseball Chapel and the organization may not be allowed to minister to the Washinton Nationals team next season. I asked Jon whether any Christians were writing in to voice support for him and Baseball Chapel and he said "No."

To support Jon's ministry and clear proclamation of the gospel, please take a couple of minutes to send email to the following people:

Tony.Tavares@nationals.com (Team President)

Jim.Bowden@nationals.com (VP & General Manager)

Chartese.Berry@nationals.com (VP Communication)

Marty.Sewell@nationals.com (Manager of Media Relations)

Use your words, but your email might state that you are a Christian and are in favor of Jon Moeller's ministry with Baseball Chapel. That Jon was merely teaching a New Testament truth, not his own opinion. That there is nothing at all anti-semitic in this, and that it's an _expression of love to tell everyone about Jesus, including Jewish people. If you are a Nationals fan be sure to add that in! Use your imagination... ....JUST EMAIL SOMETHING TODAY.

Thanks.

Stephen

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TOPICS: Charismatic Christian; Current Events; Evangelical Christian; Ministry/Outreach; Moral Issues; Prayer; Religion & Culture; Religion & Politics
KEYWORDS: chaplain; cnim; jewsforjesus; jonmoeller; mlb; persecution; stephenkatz; washingtonnationals
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To: newsgatherer

If you can't find any of my posts with scripture in them, then you haven't looked hard enough yet.

Don't worry about JimRob banning someone for including scripture in their posts. He won't.


41 posted on 09/23/2005 8:58:55 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It!)
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To: thoughtomator
Thoughtomator: **In Judaism, there are two messiahs (a political one and a military one), and neither is divine.

Tiggywinkle: **Could you direct me to OT scripture that describes what you believe?
27 posted on 09/22/2005 5:24:10 PM PDT by mrs tiggywinkle

Perhaps you didn't see my post requesting scriptural proof of your claim of 2 Messiahs, non of which being divine. Thank you in advance for responding.

42 posted on 09/23/2005 12:23:55 PM PDT by mrs tiggywinkle
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To: xzins

Thanks,


43 posted on 09/23/2005 2:07:12 PM PDT by newsgatherer
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To: newsgatherer

I can understand how a Jewish person would find Jews for Jesus offensive. However, if Jesus is the Jewish Messiah, and he is, we are going to have to put the truth ahead of not offending people.

The question is about truth. Can you be Jewish and believe in the Jewish Messiah?

Has anyone read the book of Acts? The main question in that is how can Gentiles be Christians without becoming Jewish first? It's sad that that question has been turned on its head.


44 posted on 09/23/2005 7:03:34 PM PDT by geoffrobinson
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To: geoffrobinson
Geoof, you and I hve little to argue about.

Thanks,
Jake

45 posted on 09/24/2005 5:49:40 AM PDT by newsgatherer
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To: thoughtomator

Thoughtomator...it is quite clear you refuse to answer my question even after I asked it 2 times. I know *why* you don't answer it...because your belief that there are 2 messiahs - one political and one military - is factually incorrect! You have failed to prove your belief with scripture. If you cannot back it up with scripture, then it must not be true. Prayer heavenward for thoughtomator <><


46 posted on 09/25/2005 6:24:57 AM PDT by mrs tiggywinkle
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To: mrs tiggywinkle

If you had the slightest interest in the truth than you could easily confirm my statements with your own search. I have long since learned that if you're going to get into a scriptural argument, you'd better have the time available to do it correctly and thoroughly... and I do not. However, there is nothing at all unorthodox about my previous statement and I'm sure you can find plentiful material on it.


47 posted on 09/26/2005 10:46:53 AM PDT by thoughtomator (Driving an SUV is objectively pro-terrorist)
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To: thoughtomator
There is nothing-zero-zip in the Old Testament that refers to two Messiahs (one political one military neither divine). Nothing. You cannot back up your belief with scripture because it's not in there!

btw, I have no use for arguments, thoughtomator..scriptural or otherwise. My point was/is that you are unable to back up that which you believe.

48 posted on 09/27/2005 6:47:44 AM PDT by mrs tiggywinkle
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To: sandyeggo
**The requested document does not exist on this server. **

Can you try another link? Thanks!

50 posted on 09/27/2005 7:45:12 AM PDT by mrs tiggywinkle
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