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To: sempertrad
You have it backwards. And, having failed to prove your point you want to switch the burden to me to prove something I didn't assert.

I said the SSPX is antisemitic. I showed how it is in its official "teaching" capacity. It promotes the heresy the Jews are cursed as a race.

You agree with the SSPX. The Catholic Church teaches that the Jews are NOT a cursed race. The Catholic Church has NEVER taught the Jews are a cursed race. That makes the sspx and deluded supporters of it, like you, heretics.

Schism and antisemitism and hatred of the Pope; who says one cant have it all ...

238 posted on 09/20/2005 4:26:33 AM PDT by bornacatholic
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To: bornacatholic

"I said the SSPX is antisemitic. I showed how it is in its official "teaching" capacity. It promotes the heresy the Jews are cursed as a race."

Well, judging from the efforts of a great industry endlessly proclaiming their victim status (which seems to be at odds with the positions of authority and influence they seem to hold in many walks of life), it obviously pays to conclude the truth of this prophesy. One cannot blame the SSPX for repeating tradition just because politically correct popes decide to change the Church's mind.


253 posted on 09/20/2005 6:01:11 AM PDT by Wessex
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To: bornacatholic; murphE
I said the SSPX is antisemitic. I showed how it is in its official "teaching" capacity. It promotes the heresy the Jews are cursed as a race.

And I showed you that St. Alphonsus and some other saints thought the same way. If believing in this curse is a deviation from Church teaching, why did Holy Mother Church elevate a heretic (St. Alphonsus) to Her Altars and name him a Doctor of the Church?

You're trying to move away from the fact that the Society has simply repeated expressions used by various saints. You're making up you're own definitions of heresy in a desperate attempt to keep a hatred for the Society going strong. And now you're accusing me of being an "antisemitic heretic" when all I did was show you that the answer to that question in The Angelus you cited was in keeping with expressions once used by some of those who the Church venerates.

The Catholic Church has NEVER taught the Jews are a cursed race. That makes the sspx and deluded supporters of it, like you, heretics.

Say it right here and now, bornacatholic: St. Alphonsus was a heretic. I know you think you've got the authority to decided which members of FR are Catholics in good standing, and which are...whatever you deem them to be. But I've got to see if you'll use that authority to accuse and condemn one of the greatest Doctors of the Church of heresy.
259 posted on 09/20/2005 6:44:41 AM PDT by sempertrad ("You call this a multi-media event? This is a slide projector and a bedsheet!" - A. Asparagus)
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