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To: BlackElk
Jesus Christ made promises to the Roman Catholic Church at the outset, not only establishing Peter as pope but giving to Peter (and his successors the keys of the kingdom to bind and to loose in heaven as on earth) and Jesus Christ promised to be with His Church (one and the same including JP II and Benedict XVI and ultimately NOT including the Econe 5 and their adherents).

We are both well aware of Christ's promise and to that I only say amen. As to who is right and wrong, it is a lot more complex than Pope said this ergo, everyone else is wrong. Both sides in this debate can selectively quote from their own personal favorite dead Pope up to and including John Paul II. The idividuals mentioned in Ecclesia Dei are excommunicated. The Pope used his authority here because of the illicit ordination of bishops. As far as I know, no other reason pertaining to the beliefs and practices of the SSPX has been used to justify the excommunication. Indeed, I can think of no other. The SSPX ought to seek regularization of these bishops before it seeks anything else. I would love to see that. Until then, I tolerate the Novus Ordo which is easy enough as long as the parish folkies aren't doing the liturgical music which happens every other month or so.

191 posted on 09/19/2005 12:26:49 PM PDT by TradicalRC (Benedicamus Domino.)
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To: TradicalRC
You may "tolerate" the Novus Ordo but the schismatics do not as many posts above from bornacatholic establishes without doubt.

By whose diocesan authority do SSPX purport to forgive sins in the Sacrament of Penance???? Who authorizes SSPX to grant annulments of marriages????

205 posted on 09/19/2005 2:06:18 PM PDT by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline of the Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Club)
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