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To: BulldogCatholic

As a member of this "Novus Ordo" Church, I agree, this is nuts.

But I think you have to watch what you are getting yourself into. There is a danger in extreme Traditionalism, I am not saying you are there, but one must be careful lest they fall into it.

Is Benedict XVI the Pope? If you are silent on the matter, I will assume assent. But one wouldn't want to fall into sedvacantism.

God Bless


2 posted on 08/13/2005 8:08:20 AM PDT by StAthanasiustheGreat (Vocatus Atque Non Vocatus Deus Aderit)
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To: StAthanasiustheGreat

Well I think he is the Pope but a bad one at that, misguided and taught by the likes of Rahner and Kung. The same goes for JPII. Extreme Traditionalism? If you know the root meaning of the word "traditionalism" and what Tradition means, how can one ever to "to attached to our Lord" or the Apostolic teachings that were handed down? If one takes it to the level of being violent and uncharitiable (that is unprovoked), then I shall agree. But to follow the teachings of a man who opened the church to questions and uncertainty in Lumen Gentium just by adding the simple words "subsists within", it is he who under pre-Vatican II definitions would himself be heretical. If I am not mistaken was not Kung and Rahner, Ratzingers mentors not at one time Outlaws of the church, only to be their poster boys after Vatican II? Are the post Vatican II church now saying that they were in error for the first 1962 years and have now "righted the ship"? No-it is they who need to defend THEMSELVES that they are not heretical, all Traditionalists are doing is following the teachings of the church as they were for centuries

God bless you


6 posted on 08/13/2005 10:50:49 AM PDT by BulldogCatholic
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