First off even the Novus ordo Post Vatican II church cant even get the poster right as their "priests" have not worn cassocks in over 40 years!
They are a sad group of old 1960 and 1970 radicals who are dismayed at the turn of events their expirimentation of the "flower power" years took. Only this time they took a generation of catholics with them
I would never let my children be catechised by this group of femi-nazi slack wearing "hip" nuns and Priests not to mention the laity who have taken over most of the teaching themselves as there are no priests left at the NO church and they themselves have no idea what the faith is.
My children are learning their cathechism from the 1917 Baltimore catechism taught by nuns who look like nuns.
I once asked these wonderful group of woman if they get hot and if they ever are jealous of the Novus ordo nuns who dress in "regular" clothes and do you know what their reply was? They all said that wearing the full habit and traditional garb as all past nuns have, and the black which gets very hot is only a small sacrifice to pay for the suffering our Lord went through on calvary and his mother at the foot of the cross, and getting a bit hot in the summer is nothing as compared! (and this one traditional church here in NY has already over 50 nuns, many of them teaching nuns as they have pnly been around since the late 1980's!) I was taken back as well as my wife. Amazing. The Traditional Catholicism has the Holy spirit guiding them as they are convinced what they are doing is correct as they have almost 2000 years of history and teaching to fall back on.
When you talk to a Novus Ordo supporter or pastor, all they ever can rely on, cause they despise anything that is pre-councilar is JPII "Theology of the Body" or some other vague document that has a nice mix of conservatism and liberalism all packaged up nicely. So sad
First off even the Novus ordo Post Vatican II church cant even get the poster right as their "priests" have not worn cassocks in over 40 years!
I am assuming that when you say “Novus Ordo priest” you mean any priest who celebrates the Novus Ordo Mass whether in Latin or the Vernacular and whether he wants to do so or not; not having the Indult to say the Tridentine Mass in his parish. As for the cassocks, my Novus Ordo priest does indeed where a cassock and the other priests around my parish in Detroit also where their cassocks. Feel free to come and see for yourself.
They are a sad group of old 1960 and 1970 radicals who are dismayed at the turn of events their expirimentation of the "flower power" years took. Only this time they took a generation of catholics with them.
A number are radicals, most are the go along type and a few; and growing number, are very true to the teachings of the Church from all the documents of the all councils and all the encyclicals. To one degree or another the vast majority of Novus Ordo priests serve the Church and their congregations; some much better than others, and sadly; a few not at all.
I would never let my children be catechised by this group of femi-nazi slack wearing "hip" nuns and Priests not to mention the laity who have taken over most of the teaching themselves as there are no priests left at the NO church and they themselves have no idea what the faith is.
Even in the rather liberal archdiocese of Detroit there are priests who do indeed teach catechism and teach it properly. My pastor insists on the use of the Baltimore catechism. A number of the younger diocesen priests I know, while wanting to use the Baltimore catechism and other worthy materials, have to wait until they get their own parishes.
My children are learning their cathechism from the 1917 Baltimore catechism taught by nuns who look like nuns.
We have nuns that look like nuns, meaning full habit and they also teach catechism from (gasp), the Baltimore catechism.
I once asked these wonderful group of woman if they get hot and if they ever are jealous of the Novus ordo nuns who dress in "regular" clothes and do you know what their reply was? They all said that wearing the full habit and traditional garb as all past nuns have, and the black which gets very hot is only a small sacrifice to pay for the suffering our Lord went through on calvary and his mother at the foot of the cross, and getting a bit hot in the summer is nothing as compared!
I once asked one of our full-habited, (black, dark grey and wool), Novus Ordo nuns if they got hot, (even here in Detroit it can get pretty hot in the summer-especially this summer), and how they managed. She didn't liken her suffering to the Blessed Mother or to our dear Savior, she simply and humbly stated that you get used to it.
When you talk to a Novus Ordo supporter or pastor, all they ever can rely on, cause they despise anything that is pre-councilar is JPII "Theology of the Body" or some other vague document that has a nice mix of conservatism and liberalism all packaged up nicely. So sad
Yes, it is indeed sad when a person paints with so broad a brush as you like to use. I do agree with you on this one point. The Novus Ordo Mass is what I think of as Mass-lite. I do believe it is valid, because the Church teaches that it is, and there are some things about it that I appreciate. Having said that, I admit most Catholics and their pastors who want the Novus Ordo in the vernacular only, do indeed seem to fear the Tridentine Mass. As to the documents of the Church, I doubt many of these lay Catholics understand what a pre-conciliar document is, much less if they agree with the document or not. And, those who do understand have not read the documents of Vatican II, certainly where the use of Latin and Gregorian Chant are concerned.
Most Catholics are used to the Novus Ordo Mass said in a language they can understand, and unfortunately, would feel like a fish out of water if they went to a Tridentine Mass. I wonder, though, what Christ wants of us most. Does he want us to leave the Church, to deride Her clergy because they do not live up to our standards; or, does He want us to stay by Her, with Her, in Her through all Her trials and tribulations?