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To: Zuriel

But you dont stick with the Word of God. You ignore the plain meaning of much of the New Testament. God sent his only begotten Son to take away the sins of the world. After the resurrection, Christ ascended into heaven to sit at the right hand of God. The comforter, the Holy Spirit, was sent in his place. Thats what scripture says. Furthermore, you ignore Paul's salutations where he mentions God the Father and Lord Jesus Christ in the same breath. Is the Godhead mysterious and hard to comprehend? Sure. So is the secret counsel of God. ALso, American oneness doctrine began at the turn of the last century at a pentacostal revival in Los Angeles wherein someone declared to have a "revelation". That "revelation" was also preached by William Branaham, who is considered by many to be a false prophet. Trinity is simply a descriptive word like rapture or bible.


40 posted on 08/12/2005 7:01:28 AM PDT by amosmoses
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To: amosmoses; asformeandformyhouse

The word 'begotten' implies a beginning. Quite the opposite of 'eternal'.

**After the resurrection, Christ ascended into heaven to sit at the right hand of God.**

That's symbolic of the place of power, for God is a Spirit. How does one sit on the right hand of a spirit? The Tabernacle in the wilderness was made 'by the hand of Moses'. We know that Moses was in the place of authority, and appointed the construction to various tribes. The simple movement of an emperor's right hand could mean life or death.

The Son is eternal in plan only. He was not literally begotten until Mary conceived. And as 'asformeandformyhouse' pointed out, the office of the Sonship will come to an end, having fulfilled its purpose.

The Father is 'Spirit' (John 4:23,24) and the Son, flesh (complete with a soul)

The salutations in the epistles thank God the Father (Spirit) and Jesus Christ, who alone shed his blood for our sins (and in whom the Father dwells) and the Holy Ghost(that portion of the Spirit of God that the Father has poured out, through Jesus Christ, on believers; see Acts 2:33)

"For in Him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily". Col. 2:9

American history for the 'oneness doctrine'? I don't put a lot of faith in uninspired recorded history. I am told, that through the centuries, people that believed the 'mighty God in Christ' (oneness) were persecuted, and therefore had to be careful when spreading the Word. I'm told that John Calvin had a man executed for teaching 'oneness'. Those things I'm told from mans' recorded history, and subject to imperfect reporting.

On an unrelated note: 27 yrs of wedded bliss today, she says let's go to Galena (IL). NOW!

Bye


44 posted on 08/12/2005 10:14:49 AM PDT by Zuriel (Acts 2:38,39....nearly 2,000 years and still working today!)
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