[DaGman]

I don't know who Gerry Matatics is but its awfully damn presumptious on his part to insinuate that the Holy Spirit guides him and flew right by the meetings during Vatican II. These traditionalist people are really getting on my nerves lately. I'm glad our parish priest got rid of our tradtionalist education director. We were all tired of listening to her bitch at the kids and parents during CCD.

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[Hermann the Cherusker]

I don't know who Gerry Matatics is but its awfully damn presumptious on his part to insinuate that the Holy Spirit guides him and flew right by the meetings during Vatican II.

Well, certainly some sort of Spirit guides Gerry. It remains to be demonstrated that it is the Holy Spirit. Usually those who are convinced the Holy Spirit is personally guiding them are under the malignant influence of Spirit of Darkness that is flattering their fancies of themselves.

Gerry needs to read a lot of the Sayings of the Desert Fathers. Maybe if he spent some years in ascetical struggle and penance for his previous criminal life as a Protestant, he would gain some real insight and actual Theology.

[bornacatholic]

LOL I hear ya, brother. Extreme traditonalists are their own worst enemies. I know, and admire, the traditionalists on FR who remain in Communion with their Bishop and Pope and I acknowledge it isn't easy in some situations which is why I think their longanimity serves the Body of Christ well and can be thought to have positively contributed to the election of Card Ratzinger as Pope.

I am aware of at least one traditionalist on here who is a Catechist for his Indult Community. One knows he doesn't teach rancor and disunity but truth in charity and hope.