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Matatics is a convert himself, How do I know he isn't a protestant sapper sent to destroy our Faith? Remember the devil himself quotes scripture.

And what is the deal with Pope Benedict XVI? He has publicly promised to continue to persue ecumenism and he supports Vatican Two. Since when have those actions been consistent with Mortalium Animos? He who hears you hears me? Yeah, right. Try to imagiune Jesus saying THAT after what the Chruch did to HIM in Vatican Two.

And don't give me any of this rigamarole about Magisterium this and Curia that. So what if In exercising supreme, full, and immediate power in the universal Church, the Roman pontiff makes use of the departments of the Roman Curia which, therefore, perform their duties in his name and with his authority for the good of the churches and in the service of the sacred pastors was mentioned in passing in CHRISTUS DOMINUS. THAT document came LONG after Trent and the death of the axiological principle,Prof. Plinio Corrêa de Oliveira. I think even you, a neo-whatever, would be forced to admit that since the death of the axiological principle, the Catholic world has suffered the loss of theological giants, like Mario Derksen and John Vennari.

But, enough of the chin-wagging. What to do? It is obvious. All questions must be submitted to Marian Horvath and her decisons must be adhered to. It is that simple.

Have a nice day, tall man

As a neo-cath cardboard cutout used to hide the empty alleys in the Potemkin Village in the regime of error and novelty which is the Great Facade, I know you are the type who would probably even defend the Papacy of John Paul II.

You'd probably tell us he had a Doctorate in Philosophy; that he had a Doctorate in Theology; that he wrote his dissertation on "Dark Night of the Soul:" that he was acknowledged a genius even by his opponents; that he was acknowledged as a pious and personally holy man even by his enemies; that he invented a new Theolgy, the Theology of the Body; that he, in willing to follow Jesus, had put into practice all the knowledge apprehended by his giant intellect; blah, blah, blah. So what?

Tradition, Family, Property knows better. They have seen the truth. They expose the lies.

You got something against the truth?

You got something against Tradition? Heck, they have given Tradition pride of place in their title. I have read This Rock ever since it first was mailed in a regular-sized envelope. REGULAR SIZED. T'Hell is Traditional about that?

Family. Ya got something against Family, buster?

Property. Ya got something against Property Karl Marx Keating?

I notice that, unlike TFP, you don't have a picture of a lion on your Catholic Answers website, nor does a lion appear pictured in your magazine. Why is that Karl Kitten Keating? Is it because your Faith is weak like a kitten?

Well, Marian Horvath ain't scairt. She has already nailed Pope Benedict as a liberal fraud.

But, we Catholics don't need only her. So what if Jesus said "He who hears you hears me?" He said that LONG before Vatican Two, buster. Ain't NO WAY He'd say that now what with the conciliar Popes sucking-up to the Jews and what not. No sir. No way.

It is well known - I can cite visions and such - that the Holy Spirit doesn't abandon His Church, obviously, but, naturally, has to work through His Remnant (ever heard of a little paper called The Remnant, buster?) when heretical Popes try and destroy Tradition.

Well, welcome to the end times

But, don't worry. There are those loyal to eternal Rome - ETERNAL, capiche? - and they will be guided by the Holy Spirit and they will preserve Tradition until such times as a Traditional Pope - TRADITIONAL POPE, Badabing, buster - will be elected and he will call a Council and that Council will denounce as heretical the Vatican Two Council; the Council will condemn as heretics all the Popes since Pope Pius XII, the Council will condemn as invalid/satanic the Pauline Rite; the Council will excomunicate all who ever assisted at that satanic abomination; the Council will restore the Mass of Pope Pius V, and, finally and justly, the Council will declare Lefevbre a saint. Deal with it.

But, one doesn't have only TFP to rely upon. The ones the Holy Spirit works through, The Remnant, will be diffused throughout the world so The Holy See and Rome, occupied as it is by antiChrists, so keenly detected by Lefevbre, cannot quash it and extinguish it's truth. Individual members of The Remnant will make themselves known by a self-annointing. They will be known as Traditionalists. BadaBoom, buster.

Guided by the Holy Spirit during these perilous times, they will realize they have been chosen at his time to defend Tradition against the evil conciliarist church. The truthfulness of their thoughts and the authoritativeness of their judgements will be known to all with good will because all will recognize their citations from Denziger and Mortalium Animos and Pascendi.

Badabing. Badaboom.

Well, I am done having fun being a trad :)

Let me say to you publicly, what I have said to so many others privately...let me publicly offer you my sincere gratitude and love. I think you are a great gift to our times. You have done innumerable good works and your reward in Heaven will be great. I have read you for a LONG time and through your influence, your coaching, your instructions, your advice, your referents, my knowledge and love for Holy Mother the Church has been deepened and strengthned. I have always thought your approach has been (still is) based upon truth in charity and I think you are an excellent role model for anyone considering entering apologists.

You are the best, Mr. Keating. God Bless and, as Booz ( Ruth 2:4 ) used to say to his reapers Dominus Vobiscum

Well, if you say that only converts who believe as Gerry believes are real converts, then by definition Gerry must be the most successful convert maker.

Since Gerry is in no obstinate denial of any doctrine or defined dogma of the Church, anyone who believes as Gerry believes is simply believing the Catholic faith.

But if you allow a wider definition of what constitutes a Catholic (perhaps the test might be: Would Benedict XVI consider this person to be a convert to the faith?), then Gerry can't be considered anywhere near the top of the list. The numbers just aren't there.

If by wider definition you mean one that allows error. Such as someone believing in Salvation outside the Catholic Church as Fr. Groeschel blatantly does, ( "I never bought into that" were his exact words.) then they and he are in denial of the Catholic faith (with Groeschel being the more culpable). Why not widen the definition of Catholics to include Protestants?

As far as Pope Benedict's opinion being the standard for considering someone truly in the fold, that would not be objective criteria. The standard would change according to the whims and orthodoxy of the Pope and liberal dissenters and heretics would not be able to be opposed on doctrinal facts.(think Pope Stephen on Pope Formosus).