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Since that time I have spoken to my pastor, my confessor, my best friend in the canon law world, my best friend among the FSSP's North American clergy, two professional Catholic apologists, John Pacheco, and a fellow gen-x traditionalist from my parish who is known for her sense of balance when it comes to her love for the traditional liturgy and fidelity to the Church. They were unanimous: No.:: Pete Vere 6:38 AM

First, I doubt that Pete Vere has any love for fidelity to the Church. He' s a pretty miserable cuss if you ask me. And not too bright.

Secondly, Matatics would wipe the floor with him. He's just not in Gerry's league.

I spoke with Gerry back in early April and he qualified his arguments on the Mass as being "the translations into vernacular".

So, all this junk about denying the Holy Spirit and the Indefectibility of the Church and "Gerry's a heretic etc." is plainly wrong.

And the amatuers that can't get past their EWTN catch phrases to describe the faith erroneously should just refrain and stop spreading ignorance.

A foolish little man like Keating plays the people on this site like violins. They rely exclusively on what Keating says Gerry's positions are.

111 posted on 08/09/2005 11:54:57 AM PDT by Gerard.P (The lips of liberals drip with honey while their hands drip with blood--Bishop Williamson)
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To: Gerard.P

"First, I doubt that Pete Vere has any love for fidelity to the Church. He' s a pretty miserable cuss if you ask me. And not too bright."

You know, when you write something like that, you do no harm to Pete Vere's reputation but you make yourself look like a dunce. For your own sake, please wise up.

"Secondly, Matatics would wipe the floor with him. He's just not in Gerry's league."

Pete does not claim to be a debater. On the other hand, he prepares his public presentations diligently. As often as not, Gerry walks into his debates cold. At some of them he even has told the audience, in his opening remarks, that he failed to prepare--and, by evening's end, it showed.

I wouldn't be surprised if "non-debater" Pete outshown Gerry in a debate. James White has.

"I spoke with Gerry back in early April and he qualified his arguments on the Mass as being the 'translations into vernacular'."

In the June 30 letter posted at his web site, Gerry promised that in one week he would post another letter that would explain his position on the vernacular Mass and the revised ordination rite. It has been six weeks, and still no follow-up.

On July 12 James White said on his radio program that he doubted that Gerry would have the next letter posted "before December, if ever." We will have to see if White turns out to be correct.

"A foolish little man like Keating plays the people on this site like violins. They rely exclusively on what Keating says Gerry's positions are."

First of all, I'm not little. I'm 6'2". How tall are you? (Whether I am foolish I must leave for others to decide.)

Second, if Gerry were forthright about his positions and stated them without equivocation or hedging, people would not have to rely on others to learn about them.


138 posted on 08/09/2005 8:35:40 PM PDT by Karl Keating
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