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To: ksen; Corin Stormhands; P-Marlowe; xzins
Corin Stormhands: What is the distinction between those chosen and those not chosen?

Intrinsically? Nothing.

So it's a lottery?

I have always been amazed - not really - that the GRPL can hold on to its belief about predestination, yet can never explain away: Joshua 24:15 (New International Version) New International Version (NIV)

15 But if serving the LORD seems undesirable to you, then choose for yourselves this day whom you will serve, whether the gods your forefathers served beyond the River, or the gods of the Amorites, in whose land you are living. But as for me and my household, we will serve the LORD."

How does one simply dismiss free will in light of this most unambiguous verse?

79 posted on 08/02/2005 9:31:19 AM PDT by connectthedots
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To: connectthedots
Does that scripture really deal with free will? Or does it simply ask a national dedication to the God of Israel? They were being asked as a nation to decide the God they would follow and to put the strange Gods out of their midsts. This was not an altar call CTD.

The question is not the call to believe, but the response. WHO will chose the God of Israel ? Well reading the OT we can see who it was .

By the way that quote is hung near my door as you enter. I have chosen to serve the Lord, because God so ordained that I do, Praise the Lord !

86 posted on 08/02/2005 9:44:38 AM PDT by RnMomof7 (Sola Scriptura,Sola Christus,Sola Gratia,Sola Fide,Soli Deo Gloria)
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To: connectthedots
How does one simply dismiss free will in light of this most unambiguous verse?

Why do people choose the way they do? Unless you have a clear cut answer from Scripture which explicitly excludes the Reformed view, you do not have a "most unamgiguous verse."

92 posted on 08/02/2005 9:48:21 AM PDT by Frumanchu (Saved by grace alone through faith alone in Christ alone to the glory of God alone.)
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To: connectthedots; ksen; Corin Stormhands; P-Marlowe; xzins
"How does one simply dismiss free will in light of this most unambiguous verse?"

Ahhhhh...but as xzins would say, when was Joshua regenerated?

106 posted on 08/02/2005 10:07:46 AM PDT by HarleyD
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To: connectthedots; Gamecock
How does one simply dismiss free will in light of this most unambiguous verse?

The verse is unambiguous in saying that Joshua made a decision. However, it is silent on how or why he made that decision. The verse is silent on whether or not God had to regenerate Joshua before he was able to make that decision. All it says is that a decision was made.

151 posted on 08/02/2005 11:23:57 AM PDT by ksen ("He that knows nothing will believe anything." - Thomas Fuller)
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