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To: jrny

"...to allow the priest to celebrate Mass in relative solitude with his back to the congregation, instead of facing and speaking directly to the faithful as Vatican II decreed."

What difference does it make which way the priest faces?
Why do people care so passionately and angrily about this sort of thing either way?


57 posted on 07/27/2005 2:29:01 PM PDT by Vicomte13 (Et alors?)
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To: Vicomte13
(1) Vatican II did not "decree" that priests face the laity - this is simply a fiction the article's author has concocted.

(2) We care because the center of attention of the Mass is not supposed to be an MC jawing at us, but priest and people jointly facing and focusing on the Blessed Sacrament.

59 posted on 07/27/2005 2:36:26 PM PDT by wideawake (God bless our brave troops and their Commander in Chief)
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To: Vicomte13
What difference does it make which way the priest faces?

The current configuration is in conflict with most of Church history. Before, the priest and the people faced the same direction, (in most cases, east, because from the perspective of Jerusalem, the Mount of Olives, were Jesus ascended into heaven, is east of the city. It is also the direction where the sun rises (Christ is the Light of the World)).

63 posted on 07/27/2005 2:40:24 PM PDT by Pyro7480 ("All my own perception of beauty both in majesty and simplicity is founded upon Our Lady." - Tolkien)
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To: Vicomte13

First off, "Vatican II" did NOT, EVER, ANYPLACE, "decree" that the priest face the people.

After you get History 101, we'll get into Aesthetics, Form, Symbol, and Meaning 101.


71 posted on 07/27/2005 2:51:52 PM PDT by ninenot (Minister of Membership, Tomas Torquemada Gentlemen's Club)
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To: Vicomte13
Why do people care so passionately and angrily about this sort of thing either way?

Because forms matter more than loving one's neighbor which is what real Christianity is about.

It's very pleasing to God to genuflect properly and have the mass said in the language of Jesus' killers and then can't even be nice to the people in the pew next to them, not to mention how they probably treat others in the world, on the net, in restaurants, in stores, and judge anyone who doesn't think exactly like them or the pope as being hellbound.

74 posted on 07/27/2005 2:56:10 PM PDT by Aliska
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To: Vicomte13

Because in the old days, the priest and the people faced together in the same direction towards God, whereas, now they are turned in towards each other (man centered) and celebrating themselves.

The fact remains, leaving aside all passions and arguments, that Vatican II never decreed that the priest should face the people at Mass.


109 posted on 07/27/2005 5:00:19 PM PDT by jrny (Oremus pro Pontifice nostro Benedicto Decimo Sexto.)
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To: Vicomte13
People care which way the priest faces because when he faces the congregation, it's almost as if he's turning his back on God and is more concerned with how he's performing in front of the people. The priest isn't there for our entertainment, he's there to offer up our prayers to God. Many people see a priest's turning his back on God as being very flippant at best and sacrilegious at worst. All of the irreverence that has occurred since is a natural by-product.
237 posted on 07/28/2005 2:21:59 PM PDT by nanetteclaret (The LORD is known by his justice; the wicked are ensnared by the work of their hands. Psalm 9:16)
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