Not accepting modernity? How shocking! [irony, sarcasm]
"I'm shocked! Shocked to find gambling going on here!"
Posted on 07/27/2005 1:05:40 PM PDT by GF.Regis
So many errors, so little time...
I'm a Jew, so I have no immediate interest in this. I would like to applaud Ratzinger's courage in standing tall against the forces of liberalization that would seek to water down the teachings of Church, if that is the situation (as many of my Catholic friends have told me). I just hope my people and I aren't consigned to hell again. ;)
Still, the Catholic Church is a powerful force for good, on the whole, and it's nice to see a man like Ratzinger (and a man like John Paul II) at the helm.
It's a shame that falsehoods like these are still being propagated, forty years after the Council closed. Bl. John XXIII would never have countenanced the discontinuance of Latin. Here, in fact, are the very words of this holy Pontiff:
With the foregoing considerations in mind, to which We have given careful thought, We now, in the full consciousness of Our Office and in virtue of Our authority, decree and command the following:1. Bishops and superiors-general of religious orders shall take pains to ensure that in their seminaries and in their schools where adolescents are trained for the priesthood, all shall studiously observe the Apostolic See's decision in this matter and obey these Our prescriptions most carefully.
2. In the exercise of their paternal care they shall be on their guard lest anyone under their jurisdiction, eager for revolutionary changes, writes against the use of Latin in the teaching of the higher sacred studies or in the liturgy, or through prejudice makes light of the Holy See's will in this regard or interprets it falsely. (Apostolic Constitution Veterum Sapientia, 22 February, 1962)
Ya, right. I wish (sigh)
Our priest has already talked about some of these changes taking place. He just returned from a one week retreat. Topic: Ministry
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I'm curious...is this guy Catholic?
This guy's out of touch. It's today's elderly Catholics who foisted this garbage on the rest of us. The elderly who would welcome the changes he writes about pretty much died out in the 70's and 80's. It's young people clamoring for a return to traditional orthodoxy these days.
I just hope my people and I aren't consigned to hell again. ;)
When the Vatican II generation passes, we younger Catholics will be able to properly and prudently separate the good from the bad of all that pre-Vatican II stuff. So, restoring the Latin Mass or at least something more traditional is not seen as a return to the old days, but a positive and beautiful new tomorrow. Nice language, yes, but I think you understand the point.
It's today's elderly Catholics who foisted this garbage on the rest of us. The elderly who would welcome the changes he writes about pretty much died out in the 70's and 80's. It's young people clamoring for a return to traditional orthodoxy these days.
Right on, Pgkdan!!! This 26 year old can be counted as part of that number.
This writer and his ilk are either a) in denial of a fact that they know very well to be the case or b) so completely ignorant of reality.
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I hope the predictions turn out to be right.
How many churches have enough priests to do everything during Mass ?
Translation: Altars, with the tabernacle right in the center as unmistakable focal point, will be turned back around to allow the priest to celebrate Mass in relative solitude with his back to the congregation, instead of facing and speaking directly to the faithful as Vatican II decreed.
This is patently false. Vatican II never decreed any such thing. The bishops used V2 as an excuse to have Mass facing the people.
Please, give me a break with this garbage...
It only takes one!
Well, he describes attending Mass with his family as a child in the article, he lives in the Niagara area and has a French last name, which implies that he is Catholic, and he teaches at St. Bonaventure.
Whatever Kerry is, he is.
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Not accepting modernity? How shocking! [irony, sarcasm]
"I'm shocked! Shocked to find gambling going on here!"
Poor Mr. Regis, he's going to be so surprised when he finds out it is particularly the young who will welcome these changes. I know I was.
Last year, we instituted the Kyrie and Sanctus for our All-School Masses only during Lent. After Lent, our junior high students complained wanting to know why we couldn't do the 'cool Latin stuff' all the time. (Yes, I took the time to explain to them the Kyrie is Greek.)
I smiled and said, "Well, I don't know. But if you really like it, I can ask Father and maybe we can do it all the time." We are blessed with a great priest so, of course, he said yes.
From this experience, we are now beginning a "junior high choir and bell choir" -actually a schola- for the purpose of teaching the choir, student body and then all the parish the ordinary parts of the Mass in Latin as well as Gregorian chant, traditional Catholic music and whatever decent modern stuff we can find. The kids are incredibly excited about it.
We've even transformed the choir loft back into, well, a choir loft for the schola -though for now the adult choirs will remain stuffed off to the left at the front of the church.
And we've done it all because it is the kids who want it most. Teenagers are great BS detectors. They can tell 'real' from 'fake.'
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