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[To the Traditional Anglican ping list: There was more material related to Marcus Borg lighting up the Anglican blogworld yesterday, but I did not have time to dig in to it. Perhaps more soon... --sionnsar]

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[Grampa Dave]

The cure to this insidious infection of liberalism which will be the death of all churches, not just ours is simple.

As I have noted in other replies. When vestries, churches and dioceses demand that their clergy believe in God, the Birth of Jesus, what Jesus taught us, the death of Jesus and his Resurrection, this bs will stop. If we don't, this infection of liberalism will destroy every so called Christian church in the world.

"On Saturday, June 4, 2005 the famous liberal theologian Marcus Borg is coming to central New York to give a public lecture and to speak to the clergy of the Episcopal Church. The Diocese is bringing him here. Marcus Borg is one of the founders of the Jesus Seminar in 1985. The Jesus Seminar is a group of liberal scholars who have decided that very little of what is portrayed in the Gospels is historically accurate. They say that they are in search of the "historical" Jesus, rather than the Jesus of "m yth" as portrayed by the Church for the last 2000 years."

"How did we get to a state in the Episcopal Church were orthodoxy as set forth in the Nicene Creed is out, and heresy is taught to our clergy by Marcus Borg at the request of the officials of this diocese?"

[Honorary Serb]

Marcus Borg is, I am ashamed to say, of Lutheran background, and all too many Lutherans call him a "Lutheran theologian". However, he is in no way a real Lutheran, or even a Christian. He is a Cynic, just as he wrongly portrays Jesus as a Cynic!!!!

No bishop (or "bishop") shoud excommunicate any layperson for any letter, especially one defending orthodoxy and telling the truth about Borg, Spong, and the long-dead-and-forgotten Pike. To do so is not really liberalism, but fascism!!!!

[FormerLib]

To an outsider such as myself, that a member of the Episcopal Church would be threatened with excommunication for challenging the idea that the Diocese should sponsor a founder of the "Jesus Seminar" is a perfectly representative action of the modern Episcopal Church.