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To: redgolum

Red - I'm trying to make sure I get this right, so, the only verses I find that say this are 1 Corinthians 14:34-35. Am I missing some?


16 posted on 07/01/2005 4:06:14 PM PDT by SuzyQue (Remember to think.)
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To: SuzyQue
Am I missing some?

Yes. See the verses TonyRo76 listed in Post 7 to start.

1 Timothy 3:1 This [is] a true saying, If a man desire the office of a bishop, he desireth a good work.
2 A bishop (episkopos ) then must be blameless, the husband of one wife, vigilant, sober, of good behaviour, given to hospitality, apt to teach;
3 Not given to wine, no striker, not greedy of filthy lucre; but patient, not a brawler, not covetous;
4 One that ruleth well his own house, having his children in subjection with all gravity;
3:5 (For if a man know not how to rule his own house, how shall he take care of the church of God?)
3:6 Not a novice, lest being lifted up with pride he fall into the condemnation of the devil.
7 Moreover he must have a good report of them which are without; lest he fall into reproach and the snare of the devil.

Titus 1:5 For this cause left I thee in Crete, that thou shouldest set in order the things that are wanting, and ordain elders (presbuteros) in every city, as I had appointed thee:
6 If any be blameless, the husband of one wife, having faithful children not accused of riot or unruly.

1 Timothy 3:8 Likewise the deacons (diakonos) be grave, not doubletongued, not given to much wine, not greedy of filthy lucre;
11 Even so [must their] wives [be] grave, not slanderers, sober, faithful in all things.

17 posted on 07/01/2005 7:44:59 PM PDT by PAR35
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To: SuzyQue; PAR35; TonyRo76
Sorry it took so long, but I was out of town for the Fourth and now have to go back home for a funeral.

Here is a link to the LCMS view of women's ordination. Start at page 39, but the rest of the document is good also.

TonyRo76 also had some more verses.

In regards to the deaconesses, that is a different office than the pastor. Deaconesses assist in the service, but do not officiate. I will check back in on Friday.

http://www.lcms.org/graphics/assets/media/CTCR/Women_in_Church3.pdf#xml=http://www.lcms.org/ca/search/dtsearch.asp?cmd=pdfhits&DocId=840&Index=F%3a%5cinetpub%5cwwwroot%5clcmsorg%5cdb%5csearch%5clcms&HitCount=3&hits=2ed+2ee+2ef+&hc=24&req=Women%27s+ordination
26 posted on 07/05/2005 7:47:07 AM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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