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Church cool to Graham crusade
The World Peace Herald ^ | 06/23/05 | Julia Duin

Posted on 06/23/2005 9:06:58 AM PDT by murphE

New York's massive Roman Catholic population will sit out this weekend's Billy Graham crusade in Queens because its parishes are too busy, spokesmen for the two closest dioceses say.

The 413 parishes in the Archdiocese of New York, representing 2.5 million Catholics, are too involved with school graduations, confirmations and the Vatican's emphasis on the Eucharist during 2005, spokesman Joseph Zwilling said yesterday.

The Graham crusade "asked if it would be possible for our churches to invite their people to come," he said, but "given everything happening in our parishes, especially it being the Year of the Eucharist, we didn't feel it'd be possible to ask our parishes to take on any additional activities."

Across the East River in the Diocese of Brooklyn, which lists 1.8 million Catholics, church leaders have also declined involvement, although the crusade will take place there in Flushing Meadows' Corona Park. Spokesman Frank DeRosa cited Year of the Eucharist preparations as a key reason.

Thus, none of that diocese's 217 parishes is among the 1,300 sponsoring congregations for the crusade, which is expected to draw up to 70,000 people a night for what's been billed as the evangelist's last American crusade. Neither are Catholics officially among the 15,000 volunteers amassed for the event.

The Rev. A.R. Bernard, crusade chairman, professed some puzzlement over the archdiocese's reasoning, noting Catholic involvement in other crusades.

"Those who were touched by the Catholic charismatic renewal will be there," he predicted. "You cannot judge by the leadership's protests because the lay people will come anyway."

Catholics are still welcome to attend, but the lack of official involvement amazed Graham biographer Bill Martin, who characterized the archdiocese's reasoning as a "change in policy" from Mr. Graham's 1991 Central Park crusade. Back then, he said, 630 Catholic churches cooperated with the crusade and information on the meetings was handed out at St. Patrick's Cathedral.

That 1991 stance had been a huge shift from Mr. Graham's first New York crusade in 1957, he said, when Catholics boycotted the event and Catholic clergy were instructed on how to counter Mr. Graham's preaching.

"So maybe something's come down from above saying not to be involved in this," Mr. Martin added.

Mr. Zwilling said he didn't remember any such cooperation from churches back then, but Catholic clergy in 1991 did receive names of Catholics who answered Mr. Graham's altar calls at the Central Park event.

In a column to be released Saturday in the diocesan newspaper the Tablet, Brooklyn Bishop Nicholas DiMarzio outlined the significant divide over how Catholics and Protestants understand salvation.

The bishop said he welcomed Mr. Graham into the area and promised to follow up on any names given to them by crusade organizers.

To forestall objections of "sheep stealing," crusade policy is that all Catholics attending the event who sign a card signifying a desire for salvation are referred to the diocese.

Another Graham biographer, David Aikman, said Mr. Graham had a "good relationship" with many Catholic prelates, such as the late Boston Cardinal Richard Cushing, who in 1964 praised the evangelist's talent for converting non-Christians, adding, "I only wish we had half a dozen men of his caliber to go forth and do likewise."

In 1997, Mr. Graham told New Man magazine, an evangelical publication, that "through the years I have made many friends within the Roman Catholic Church. In fact, when we hold a crusade in a city now, nearly all the Roman Catholic churches support it.

"And when we went to Minneapolis-St. Paul, Minnesota, for the crusade [last year], we saw St. Paul, which is largely Catholic, and Minneapolis, which is largely Lutheran, both supporting the crusade. That wouldn't have happened 25 years ago."


TOPICS: Apologetics; Catholic; Current Events; Ecumenism; Ministry/Outreach
KEYWORDS: billygraham; catholic; catholiclist; ecumenism; nyc
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To: Gerard.P

I've read the new testament and what Jesus Christ did for me. I did all that before going to church. If you don't agree well then tough. I'm not interested in a cyber debate.


81 posted on 06/23/2005 8:34:38 PM PDT by cyborg (http://mentalmumblings.blogspot.com/)
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To: cyborg

Sweetie, don't feed the trolls.


82 posted on 06/23/2005 8:34:48 PM PDT by Petronski (Be alert! The world needs more lerts.)
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To: murphE

Debate that with someone else who cares.


83 posted on 06/23/2005 8:35:18 PM PDT by cyborg (http://mentalmumblings.blogspot.com/)
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To: cyborg
You read, I'm sure, where Graham's crusade sends the cards of those Catholics who present themselves for prayer to the Archdiocese.

IOW, they're doing Egan's job for him.

It would be a privilege, and an inspiration, to go to Billy Graham's final crusade. There'll be lots of Catholics there, with or without Egan's blessing.

84 posted on 06/23/2005 8:35:54 PM PDT by sinkspur (If you want unconditional love with skin, and hair and a warm nose, get a shelter dog.)
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To: Petronski

thanks.. I noticed that.


85 posted on 06/23/2005 8:36:17 PM PDT by cyborg (http://mentalmumblings.blogspot.com/)
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To: sinkspur

It is a GOLDEN opportunity that Egan passed up. This is not news to me though. He's ignored sex abuse survivors. He'll ignore Billy Graham too.


86 posted on 06/23/2005 8:38:22 PM PDT by cyborg (http://mentalmumblings.blogspot.com/)
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To: cyborg

That's not the point?

Does he or does he not lead people to a true Jesus or a false Jesus?


87 posted on 06/23/2005 8:38:27 PM PDT by Gerard.P (The lips of liberals drip with honey while their hands drip with blood--Bishop Williamson)
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To: Gerard.P

Watch for yourself.


88 posted on 06/23/2005 8:39:19 PM PDT by cyborg (http://mentalmumblings.blogspot.com/)
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To: Petronski
Sweetie, don't feed the trolls.

I beg your pardon sir, but are you referring to me as a troll? Would you be so kind to explain the reason for this derisive term?

89 posted on 06/23/2005 8:40:33 PM PDT by murphE (These are days when the Christian is expected to praise every creed but his own. --G.K. Chesterton)
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To: murphE

Does the shoe fit?


90 posted on 06/23/2005 8:41:29 PM PDT by Petronski (Be alert! The world needs more lerts.)
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To: murphE

Oops. Looks like you rained on the hippie "love fest" parade.

The kiddies get like that when they actually have to defend their inconsistent and illogical assertions.


91 posted on 06/23/2005 8:41:50 PM PDT by Gerard.P (The lips of liberals drip with honey while their hands drip with blood--Bishop Williamson)
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To: Petronski

The shoe fits right where it will make your eyes light up like Atlanta on fire.


92 posted on 06/23/2005 8:42:53 PM PDT by Gerard.P (The lips of liberals drip with honey while their hands drip with blood--Bishop Williamson)
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To: murphE
To forestall objections of "sheep stealing," crusade policy is that all Catholics attending the event who sign a card signifying a desire for salvation are referred to the diocese.

"Sheep stealing"??

I prefer the term "soul saving."

93 posted on 06/23/2005 8:43:36 PM PDT by F16Fighter
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To: Petronski

Explain it to me, I really don't why you choose to try to insult me.


94 posted on 06/23/2005 8:43:41 PM PDT by murphE (These are days when the Christian is expected to praise every creed but his own. --G.K. Chesterton)
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To: Gerard.P

A threat. Nice.


95 posted on 06/23/2005 8:44:20 PM PDT by Petronski (Be alert! The world needs more lerts.)
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To: Petronski

Pay no mind petronski. I'm off this thread.


96 posted on 06/23/2005 8:45:52 PM PDT by cyborg (http://mentalmumblings.blogspot.com/)
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To: cyborg

If your not interested in friendly debate then go write on your blog where no one will see or contest it.

What Jesus did for me is obviously something different than what "jesus" did for you. One of us is right.

I'm choosing the Catholic Faith. Period.


97 posted on 06/23/2005 8:45:56 PM PDT by Gerard.P (The lips of liberals drip with honey while their hands drip with blood--Bishop Williamson)
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To: cyborg
It is a GOLDEN opportunity that Egan passed up. This is not news to me though. He's ignored sex abuse survivors. He'll ignore Billy Graham too.

Egan's a CEO in a roman collar. As long as he can balance the books, he's happy.

He also has no sense of history. The only man who was comparable to Billy Graham in the modern age in terms of appeal died on April 2.

98 posted on 06/23/2005 8:46:42 PM PDT by sinkspur (If you want unconditional love with skin, and hair and a warm nose, get a shelter dog.)
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To: Gerard.P

LOL I'm interested in friendly discussion but it's not happening on this thread. Have a nice evening.


99 posted on 06/23/2005 8:48:05 PM PDT by cyborg (http://mentalmumblings.blogspot.com/)
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To: Petronski

There was no threat at all. Don't play the victim. You suck at it.


100 posted on 06/23/2005 8:48:11 PM PDT by Gerard.P (The lips of liberals drip with honey while their hands drip with blood--Bishop Williamson)
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