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To: biblewonk
Then Mary is the Foster Mother, because she is less of a Mother of His essence than a normal Mother is. I didn't exist before my mom conceived me. Since Jesus already existed as God and as Spirit, the Majority of Jesus was not mothered by Mary.

You have some misconceptions regarding the nature of motherhood and fatherhood. You speak of the "majority" of Jesus, by which you refer to His existance as God and Spirit. But the "majority" of you (obviously spirit only, not God) did not come from either your mother or your father, but from God, who created your spirit and infused it in your newly conceived form. That He did this at a particular point in time is due to your nature both a creature, that needed to be created, and a human, who is by nature both soul and body.

You say that Mary did not "mother" the majority of Jesus. No woman has ever "mothered" the majority of anyone, since motherhood has to due with conceiving and carrying the body, and has nothing to do with the soul, which is always provided by God alone.

There is not one thing which your mother did for your spirit which Mary did not do for Christ.

80 posted on 06/27/2005 3:20:34 PM PDT by Credo_in_unum_deum (Be you therefore perfect, as also your heavenly Father is perfect.)
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To: Credo_in_unum_deum
You have some misconceptions regarding the nature of motherhood and fatherhood. You speak of the "majority" of Jesus, by which you refer to His existance as God and Spirit. But the "majority" of you (obviously spirit only, not God) did not come from either your mother or your father, but from God, who created your spirit and infused it in your newly conceived form.

Yes. Key word there, "created" Hence one of the very huge differences.

That He did this at a particular point in time is due to your nature both a creature, that needed to be created, and a human, who is by nature both soul and body.

"needed" hmmm

You say that Mary did not "mother" the majority of Jesus. No woman has ever "mothered" the majority of anyone, since motherhood has to due with conceiving and carrying the body, and has nothing to do with the soul, which is always provided by God alone.

Your statement is true but you left out a bit there. My spirit and soul is just Human, Jesus' is God and created the universe that He decided to inhabit physically. It's a much much much much much bigger majority in His case than in ours.

There is not one thing which your mother did for your spirit which Mary did not do for Christ.

Your statements about God making our Spirit are all true which is why God is truely our Father. God is soverign so even when a baby is conceived and gets a spirit and soul it is because God already decided that would happen then for that individual. At that time, it seems, God makes a spirit and soul for the person. Not so with Jesus. In His case that always was.

So we all are kind of Motherless Spiritually since it is only our Heavenly Father that Father's our spiritual component. So Spiritually speaking, there is no mother, no one has a mother, especially not God.

83 posted on 06/28/2005 5:09:58 AM PDT by biblewonk (If you don't get the bible, how can you be a Christian?)
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