To: vox_freedom
I agree there is nothing wrong with correcting the abuses of the post-Vatican II era. But the traditionalists simply gripe from their armchair about Latin Mass and priests with their backs to the congregation. A) That is not the cure-all for what ails the Church and B) It's a pipe-dream to think we can turn the clock back 200 years as if nothing happened.
To: Conservative til I die
Oh stop! You are simply not telling the truth about traditionalists.
Quit the fiction writing and deal with what traditionalists are actually fighting and you may learn something.
If you are not part of the solution you are part of the problem.
"The job of Progressives is to go on making mistakes, the job of Conservatives is to prevent those mistakes from being corrected." G.K. Chesterton.
11 posted on
06/04/2005 10:22:23 AM PDT by
Gerard.P
(The lips of liberals drip with honey while their hands drip with blood--Bishop Williamson)
To: Conservative til I die
...about Latin Mass and priests with their backs to the congregation
The priest is facing the Tabernacle and our Lord. The fact that his back is to the congregation is, of course, secondary. The focus of attention is not the interaction between the priest and his parishoners. But, I'd imagine that this has been discussed ad nauseum elsewhere on this forum.
The analogy isn't perfect, but an argument can be made that lamenting that the celebrant's back is to the congregation during the Mass is akin to complaining that a general's back is to his troops when he leads them into battle.
But the traditionalists simply gripe from their armchair about Latin Mass and priests with their backs to the congregation.
Traditionalists also attend Mass, participate in their parishes, raise families, teach their children, expose others to the Mass and tradition known to generation after generation long past. What would you propose should instead be done?
It's a pipe-dream to think we can turn the clock back 200 years as if nothing happened.
200 years? And, why is this a pipe dream?
To: Conservative til I die
But the traditionalists simply gripe from their armchair about Latin Mass and priests with their backs to the congregation. A) That is not the cure-all for what ails the Church No. It is merely one of many effectual results that stem from the causality of an uprising of traditionalism among Catholics. Which will in fact go a long way to restoring the Church towards purity and beauty.
B) It's a pipe-dream to think we can turn the clock back 200 years as if nothing happened.
Please. Thge traditional Latin Mass was around in my lifetime. Surprise, I'm less than two hundred years old! The atavistic impulse is a perrenial part of human nature and asserts itself from time to time. It is "progressivers" like yourself that view history as a straight line where the present always contains the highest point reached by humanity; that is the primary delusion of liberalism.
29 posted on
06/04/2005 12:31:44 PM PDT by
TradicalRC
(I'd rather live in a Christian theocracy than a secular democracy.)
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