As for Arch Street, I was going to their 8:30, 3 or 4 years ago, I think, and that was quite sedate -- even novena prayers Tuesdays and Thursdays (one for St. Jude and one for St. Anthony -- I forget now which was which, and with veneration of a relic of St. Anthony on his novena day), no lectors, and another Friar or a Brother would help with Communion.
Even at that time, though, I went to the noon Mass once, and it was pretty far gone for my taste -- the progressive laity were apparently in charge and lapping it up!
Unfortunately, the 8:30 was one of the first Masses cut.
I think it's maintained by the Propagation for the Faith. Well worth a look see!
Once I noticed Arch St. gave up the real votives for those excretable 'turn on the light' things, it was all downhill from there! I miss seeing the beautiful statues in the side chapel though.